<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Yes. In my opinion the Vandals should return to the Big Sky Conference.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I miss the old rivalry games like the ones we used to have against Bozo State. That same spirit can be nurtured in games against Montana and Eastern Washington. </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Bring back that AWESOME school spirit I looked forward to every Saturday.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Until then, I'll jus' have to kick back and crank up a couple old Vandal rap songs . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Vandal Rap"</b></div><div><a href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Vandal_Rap.mp3" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://www.TomandRodna.com/Songs/Vandal_Rap.mp3</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"What Up, Moscow"</b></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/What_Up_Moscow.mp3">http://www.TomandRodna.com/Songs/What_Up_Moscow.mp3</a><br><br></span></font><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div></div></div></div><div><br>On Apr 20, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Nicholas Gier <<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">ngier006@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Dear Scott,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for contributing to those academic scholarships.</div><div><br></div><div>The Morrill Act was amended in 1890 and athletics was still not part of the core mission of land-grant institutions. The UI Constitution is from 1889 and it does not mention athletics as the core mission of the University.</div><div><br></div><div>UI athletic positions are filled on a regular basis, but staff and faculty vacancies are not. My position has never been filled, and UI students can no longer take courses in Asian philosophy. </div><div><br></div><div>My Buddhism course was taught for several years after my retirement, but it has now been eliminated. We are losing our competitive edge to the Asians every day, and it is imperative that we understand their culture. Having a great football team does not aid in that task at all.</div><div><br></div><div>All other campus units have tried to survive within very tight budget constraints. Athletics must learn to do the same.</div><div><br></div><div>Go Vandals (within the Big Sky)!</div><div><br></div><div>Nick</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:23 AM, Scott Dredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79282"><font id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79640" size="3"><font id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79641" face="georgia, serif">The two major revenue producing college sports are football and men's
basketball. The sport of football did not exist in America until 1869. Basketball was not invented until and 1891.
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Morrill Act of 1862 saying "nothing about athletics" is an extremely weak argument to raise in regard to budgeting of the athletic department.
</font></font>This type of logic is as ineffective as stating "nowhere in the Constitution is the word 'abortion' mentioned" as a justification for states to enact and enforce laws criminalizing abortion.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79241"><font id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79784" size="3"><font id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79785" face="georgia, serif">Your second point that 'you can see no reason that UI athletics cannot
live within the limits of its generous annual subsidy of $949,500' comes off to me that you simply lack vision. Idaho is in the midst of taking the unprecedented action of moving from FBS to FCS and thus will be experiencing a significant downturn in revenue.
They're heading into very troubled waters and maybe to your delight. Certainly not mine. I can attest that the three endowments for the U of I that I created to fund
<u id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_82196">academic</u> scholarships (and I received a record 10 thank you notes this year from scholarship recipients) can be directly credited to Idaho's move from Division I-AA to Division I
<u id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_82217">athletics</u>. You can probably count how much more money I'll be donating on zero hands. Be my guest in taking credit for this turn-about.</font></font><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;text-indent:0.5in;color:black" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79787"><br>
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<b id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79987"><span style="font-weight:bold" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_79986">To:</span></b> vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>
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<b id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78667"><span style="font-weight:bold" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78666">Subject:</span></b> [Vision2020] UI Backs Off From $4 million for Athletics<br>
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<div id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78393"><font id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78394" face="georgia, serif">Both faculty and students can take credit for this turn-about. Here are excerpts from a revised version of my column that appeared in the
Argonaut yesterday. One faculty senator noted that the Morrill Act of 1862, which established our land-grant institutions (of which UI is one), said nothing about athletics.</font></div>
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<div id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78846"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:black;text-indent:0.5in" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78845">UI Finance Vice-President Brian Foisy estimates a deficit between $900,000 and $1,000,000. The
athletics department had originally requested $1 million a year for four years to bring the budget out of the red. </span></div>
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<div id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78738"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:black;text-indent:0.5in" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78737">After some hard questioning at last Tuesday’s Faculty Senate meeting and a revealing investigative
report by a UI student (see below), Vice-President Foisy has now announced that the request will be $950,000 for this year alone. . . .</span></div>
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<div id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78741"><span style="color:black;font-family:georgia,serif;text-indent:0.5in" id="m_-225810545650332978yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619043271_78740">Vice-President Foisy has argued that all campus units require a subsidy, but those faculty and
staff contribute to the core mission of the University. Land grant universities such as the UI were authorized by the Morrill Act 1862, signed by President Abraham Lincoln. Nowhere in this legislation nor in the UI Constitution is athletics described as essential
to the function of these institutions.</span></div>
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and many others cut their budgets to the bone—some have no travel money and some have no faculty telephones—so I see no reason that UI athletics cannot live within the limits of its generous annual subsidy of
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