<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><a href="http://right-mind.us/">http://right-mind.us/</a><br><br><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div></div><div><br>On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Nicholas Gier <<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">ngier006@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="georgia,serif">We've not heard from Dale Courtney in ages, so I was surprised to see this critique of me in the Daily News.</font></div><div><font face="georgia,serif"></font><br></div><div><font face="georgia,serif">Nick Gier displays the same partisanship, arguing elsewhere Sept. 3 the national debt is the fault of the GOP. He argues Democratic presidents have reduced the debt the most; and as proof, the Obama administration has reduced the deficit from 11.1 percent to 2.7 percent. Either the philosophy professor doesn't know the difference between debt and deficit or he's being duplicitous, which is tragic for an ethics professor. The national debt went from $10.6 trillion the day President Obama took office to $20 trillion today. </font></div><div><font face="georgia,serif"></font><br></div><div><font face="georgia,serif">Nowhere I have ever written that the GOP is solely responsible for the national debt. That's of course absurd. What I have repeated is the well known truth--backed up by non-partisan data--that Democratic administrations have run up less debt, have had higher economic growth, and have had lower unemployment rates.</font></div><div><font face="georgia,serif"></font><br></div><div><font face="georgia,serif">Yes, the national debt has doubled under Obama, but the important question is: who is responsible for this continuing red ink?</font><span style="margin:0px;color:black"><font face="georgia,serif">The Center for Budget and Policy
Priorities has calculated the long-term effects of various elements of the
national debt, assuming that the Bush tax cuts are still in place.</font><span style="margin:0px"><font face="georgia,serif"> (Trump's tax cuts will increased the debt even more.) </font></span><font face="georgia,serif">By 2019 those cuts will amount to $600
billion of the debt burden as opposed to $75 billion for Obama’s stimulus. We
will still be paying $320 billion for the Great Recession (primarily caused by
the financial sector) and $150 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.</font></span><font face="georgia,serif">
As I like to say: Bush borrowed money to wage two wars, but Obama borrowed money at much lower interest rates and saved the economy.</font></div><div><font face="georgia,serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="georgia,serif">Courtney claims that I confuse deficits and debt, but he is the one that is confused. If my monthly budget runs a deficit, I will go into debt, and I might borrow some money to get by, but my debt is still there plus interest. It is no different with the government. The Obama administration has brought down the annual deficit from 11.1 percent to 3.2 percent (it's gone up a bit since Courtney quoted me. That means that less was added to the national debt over six years.
</font></div><div><br></div><div><font face="georgia">Are you still lurking on the Vision, or do I need to dig out your email address to set your "Right Mind" straight? </font></div><div><font face="georgia"><br></font></div><div><font face="georgia">Your Pal, Nick</font><font face="georgia,serif"><br clear="all"><br>-- </font><br></div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div> <div style="width:auto;height:auto"> <div> <div><div><font face="georgia,serif"></font><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><font face="georgia,serif">A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in. </font><br><font face="georgia,serif"></font><br>-Greek proverb</div><div><br>
“Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed immaturity.
Immaturity is the inability to use one’s understanding without guidance
from another. This immaturity is self- imposed when its cause lies not
in lack of understanding, but in lack of resolve and courage to use it
without guidance from another. Sapere Aude! ‘Have courage to use your
own understand-ing!—that is the motto of enlightenment.<br>
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--Immanuel Kant<br>
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