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Anyone who is under the impression that the Bush family is blameless
under law is invited to read and consider the following two books:<br>
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Just and Unjust Wars: A Moral Argument with Historical
Illustrations, by Michael Walzer<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.amazon.com/Just-Unjust-Wars-Historical-Illustrations/dp/0465052711">http://www.amazon.com/Just-Unjust-Wars-Historical-Illustrations/dp/0465052711</a>
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An audio version of Walzer's book is available from audible.com.<br>
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The Morality of War, 2nd Edition, by Brian Orend <br>
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<b><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tinyurl.com/hnk4jll">http://tinyurl.com/hnk4jll</a> <br>
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Ken<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/29/2016 5:40 PM, lfalen wrote:<br>
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<div>Bush as far as know has not broken any US laws, He should
not be held liable for any foreign laws. Hastert should go
to jail. It is a bit much to say he should be executed.
Hillary should be charged and found guilty , but since she is
a democrat she won't be. Republicans who have committed lesser
offences have gone to jail.</div>
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<div>Roger</div>
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Nightmare on Elm Street<br>
From: "Nicholas Gier" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com"><ngier006@gmail.com></a><br>
To: "Kenneth Marcy" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com"><kmmos1@frontier.com></a><br>
Date: 04/29/16 22:28:58<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Roger,
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<div>European jurists have let it be known that they will
issue arrest warrants for George W. Bush and his closest
associates charging them with war crimes. This is the
reason why these alleged criminals are not traveling
abroad. Canada appears safe for them, but perhaps the new
liberal government will have different ideas.</div>
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<div>Under the legal principle of international
jurisdiction, British authorities were compelled to honor
a warrant for the arrest of the Chilean dictator Augusto
Pinochet. The warrant was issued by a Spanish judge. The
Brits set Pinochet free because of health reasons, but
Bush and his henchmen will not have the same excuse.</div>
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<div>As president Hillary will be free to travel anywhere in
the world, and she will be welcomed because of her
extensive foreign contacts and the lack of any charges
against her.</div>
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<div>What do you say about Bush's crimes?</div>
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<div>Awaiting your reply,</div>
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<div>Nick</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:56 AM,
Kenneth Marcy <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<font size="+1">Governance is a multilateral effort.
Its effectiveness and efficiency must be evaluated
from multiple viewpoints.<br>
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Hillary, for example, has more experience of
governmental affairs which may be evaluated and
judged.<br>
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Whether Hillary should have been allowed to have all
of that experience by those who knew, or should have
known, of the nature and details of her performances
in various prior positions is another matter.<br>
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Those chosen and elected are responsible to perform
as well as they are able, legally and morally.<br>
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Those doing the choosing and electing are
responsible to deny further opportunities given
illegal or immoral conduct.<br>
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However much politicians may be disdained and
dishonored, those who re-elect them are no less
dishonorable.<br>
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Ken<br>
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<div>On 4/28/2016 9:25 PM, Debi Smith wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Thank you.<br>
Debi R-S<br>
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<div>On 4/28/2016 6:45 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:<br>
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<div>Roger wrote: <Hillary should be in
the federal pen></div>
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<div>Roger - do you believe in innocent
until proven guilty? If so, why do you
state that Hillary should be in the
federal pen when despite her being
continuously watched under multiple
investigative microscopes, she's not been
convicted of any crime let alone even been
indicted on even the most minor of
infractions???</div>
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<div>Also, shouldn't former Republican House
Speaker Dennis Hastert be executed?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Without any reasonable doubt,
Hillary has a by far a much richer resumé
of governing states and the country than
any of the other presidential candidates.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">-Scott<br>
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<divre>Hillary should be in the federal pen,
but more than likely she will be in the
Whitehouse. Hopefully her coattails are
short.
Roger
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On 4/7/2016 4:26 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
Which begs the question . . .
When (not "If") Hillary Clinton Is
inaugurated in January, what will be Bill
Clinton's official title? First Dude?
Bill Clinton's official title likely will
be nowhere near as important as the
variety of roles in which he will
participate. Unfortunately, I suspect that
the general public will be aware of fewer
than all of them.
The Obama years may be remembered as
uncomfortably under-productive considering
the opposing party's roles in the
legislative branch, but a return of the
Clinton family to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
may turn out to be a painful period of
presidential potential unfulfilled if the
opposing party controlling the other end
of Pennsylvania Avenue decides to insulate
the Executive Offices from significant
achievement. Even worse is the prospect of
extended periods of formal legal combat
between branches of the federal government
should the Clintons' ascendancy return.
We've been there before; the prospect of
exchanging roles, editing the script
lines, and performing the revised play
again to a captive audience causes at
least as much trepidation as excitement.
Rather than a title, he may have an
acronymic nickname: Frosty - first reader
of subpoenas to yield.
(One suspects that may be afflicted with
sad - scalia acronym disease.)
What is really needed, of course, is a
presidential candidate whose coat-tails
are sufficiently strong as to bring a
cooperative federal legislature with him
into incumbency. Then the people's
business may be more expeditiously
accomplished.
Ken
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"Enlightenment is man's emergence from
his self-imposed immaturity.
Immaturity is the inability to use
one's understanding without guidance
from another. This immaturity is self-
imposed when its cause lies not in
lack of understanding, but in lack of
resolve and courage to use it without
guidance from another. Sapere Aude!
'Have courage to use your own
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