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    <font size="+1">The Veterans Administration has invested significant
      resources into Information Technology for patient information
      systems that appear to do their job better than analogous private
      sector systems.  Improving the existing single-payor VA system
      likely would be more efficient and less expensive than attempting
      to upgrade hundreds or thousands of private systems in various
      piecemeal fashions to meet the needs of a huge influx of veterans
      requiring long-term care.<br>
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    <font size="+1"><b><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tinyurl.com/pnb5f4u">http://tinyurl.com/pnb5f4u</a> <br>
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        After we have completed an upgrade of the VA systems to handle
        the nation's unfortunate warriors from our last
        quarter-century's misadventures, perhaps we can use some of the
        favorable lessons learned to upgrade our national health care
        system to a more effective single-payor system for everyone.<br>
        <br>
        Intelligent health care administration includes not wasting
        resources to reinvent wheels already turning.<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Ken<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2015 5:19 PM, lfalen wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:0fa20416ee68385e2dfd3337636e8134@turbonet.com"
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        <div>If they did not go to a VA hospital but to some other
          hospital the government should pay. The same as they would at
          a VA hospital.</div>
        <div>Roger<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
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          border-left-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); border-left-width: 3px;
          border-left-style: solid;">-----Original Message-----<br>
          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ben Carson suggests doing away with
          Department of Veterans Affairs<br>
          From: "Tom Hansen" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><thansen@moscow.com></a><br>
          To: lfalen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><lfalen@turbonet.com></a><br>
          Date: 08/30/15 02:09:52<br>
          <br>
          <title></title>
          <div>Mr. Falen - </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>The DVA works!  It simply needs some realignment.
             Closing down the DVA and requiring veterans to seek medical
            assistance from a local non-VA hospital will be costly to
            the veteran.  The current system provides tremendous care
            for for the low-income, as well as the homeless veteran, a
            service that will be extremely difficult, if at all, for
            those veterans to obtain.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Just who do you expect to pay the bill for those
            facilities?  </div>
          <div>
            <br>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya
                'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>
              </span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow
                Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div>
            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" style="background-color:
                rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"
                href="http://www.moscowcares.com/"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">  </span></div>
            <div>
              <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255,
                  0);">Tom Hansen</span></div>
              <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255,
                  0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div>
            </div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>
              </span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's
                room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But
                first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If
                you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>
              </span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">-
                John Lennon</span></div>
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          <div>
            <br>
            On Aug 29, 2015, at 2:44 PM, lfalen <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="index.html?_n%5Bp%5D%5Bmain%5D=win.main.tree&_n%5Bp%5D%5Bcontent%5D=mail.compose&to=lfalen@turbonet.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a></a>>
            wrote:<br>
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                <div>Tom</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>I think that you are miss -reading Carson. He does
                  not want to shaft veterans. Instead of waiting months
                  for service and driving hundreds of miles to a VA
                  Hospital, he wants   them to be able to get service at
                  any hospital.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Roger<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
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                  border-left-color: rgb(119, 119, 119);
                  border-left-width: 3px; border-left-style: solid;">-----Original
                  Message-----<br>
                  Subject: [Vision2020] Ben Carson suggests doing away
                  with Department of Veterans Affairs<br>
                  From: "Tom Hansen" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="index.html?_n%5Bp%5D%5Bmain%5D=win.main.tree&_n%5Bp%5D%5Bcontent%5D=mail.compose&to=thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
                  To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="index.html?_n%5Bp%5D%5Bmain%5D=win.main.tree&_n%5Bp%5D%5Bcontent%5D=mail.compose&to=vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>
                  Date: 08/28/15 20:16:12<br>
                  <br>
                  <div>Just as you think you've heard everything
                    ignorant, in comes Ben Carson to prove you wrong.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Courtesy of <i>Stars and Stripes</i> at:</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/ben-carson-suggests-doing-away-with-department-of-veterans-affairs-1.364984">http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/ben-carson-suggests-doing-away-with-department-of-veterans-affairs-1.364984</a></div>
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                    <h1 style="margin: 0px 0px 7px; padding: 0px;
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                      line-height: 1.2; font-family: Georgia,
                      "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
                      font-size: 28px; font-weight: 400; vertical-align:
                      baseline; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Ben
                      Carson suggests doing away with Department of
                      Veterans Affairs</h1>
                    <div style="margin: 0px 0px 11px; padding: 0px;
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                      border-image: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><span
                        style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255,
                        0);">Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson
                        suggested eliminating the Department of Veterans
                        Affairs in a talk radio interview Wednesday,
                        leading to swift condemnation from one veterans
                        group.</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
                      padding: 0px; outline: 0px; border: 0px
                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The former Johns
                        Hopkins pediatric neurosurgeon said problems
                        with the Veterans Affairs health system are
                        discouraging people from joining the military in
                        the first place and said there needed to be a
                        single system to take care of active duty troops
                        as well as those who are no longer serving.</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
                      padding: 0px; outline: 0px; border: 0px
                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"We don't need a
                        Department of Veterans Affairs," Carson told
                        host Dave Ramsey. "Veterans Affairs should be
                        folded in under the Department of Defense. And
                        it should be a smooth transition. We need to be
                        looking at the way we take care of soldiers."</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
                      padding: 0px; outline: 0px; border: 0px
                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Instead of the current
                        system that provides treatment for veterans at
                        government-run hospitals, Carson suggested that
                        they should have a health savings account that
                        would pay for treatment at any medical facility.
                        The VA facilities could then be used for
                        specialized treatments for traumatic brain
                        injuries and limb replacements - problems that
                        particularly afflict veterans.</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
                      padding: 0px; outline: 0px; border: 0px
                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But Paul D. Eaton, a
                        retired Army major general and adviser to
                        progressive political group <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://VoteVets.org">VoteVets.org</a>,
                        said Carson's plan was an insult to veterans.</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
                      padding: 0px; outline: 0px; border: 0px
                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Rather than think of
                        ways to nickel and dime our veterans, Dr. Carson
                        should be thinking of other areas of fat in
                        government - particularly in defense contracts -
                        that can be cut, so we can hire more doctors and
                        caregivers, to provide returning veterans with
                        the kind of care they earned," Eaton said in a
                        statement.</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
                      padding: 0px; outline: 0px; border: 0px
                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In the past 18 months
                        the VA health system has been shaken by
                        revelations that some doctors manipulated wait
                        lists and fresh questions over the availability
                        of care for veterans. Veterans Affairs Secretary
                        Robert A. McDonald, who was put in place to
                        clean up the department, is scheduled to be in
                        Baltimore next week to address the American
                        Legion convention.</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
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                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Henry Howard, a
                        spokesman for the American Legion, said the
                        problems have been a priority for veterans, but
                        that most former service members are happy with
                        the care that they get through the VA.</span></div>
                    <div class="krttext" style="margin: 0px 0px 11px;
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                      currentColor; border-image: none; vertical-align:
                      baseline;"><span style="background-color:
                        rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"A large percent of
                        veterans getting healthcare are great, the
                        veterans love it," he said.</span></div>
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                    <br>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . .
                        .</span></div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);"><br>
                      </span></div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);">"Moscow Cares"</span></div>
                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);">  </span></div>
                    <div>
                      <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                          255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div>
                      <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                          255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div>
                    </div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);"><br>
                      </span></div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are
                        telling you still.</span></div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);">But first you must learn how to smile
                        as you kill,</span></div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on
                        the hill."</span></div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);"><br>
                      </span></div>
                    <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                        255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div>
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