<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">This is a familiar refrain from Republicans, who don't believe that the government should provide services. Voucherize, privatize, block grant programs, then as they fade from public view, reduce and then eliminate the budgets.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font size="2">Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA</font></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, lfalen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>If they did not go to a VA hospital but to some other hospital the government should pay. The same as they would at a VA hospital.</div><div>Roger<br><br><br><br><br></div><div style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(119,119,119);border-left-width:3px;border-left-style:solid"><span class="">-----Original Message-----<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ben Carson suggests doing away with Department of Veterans Affairs<br>From: "Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br></span><div><div class="h5">To: lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>><br>Date: 08/30/15 02:09:52<br><br>
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<div>The DVA works! It simply needs some realignment. Closing down the DVA and requiring veterans to seek medical assistance from a local non-VA hospital will be costly to the veteran. The current system provides tremendous care for for the low-income, as well as the homeless veteran, a service that will be extremely difficult, if at all, for those veterans to obtain.</div>
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<div>Just who do you expect to pay the bill for those facilities? </div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div>
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<br>On Aug 29, 2015, at 2:44 PM, lfalen <<a href="http://index.html?_n%5Bp%5D%5Bmain%5D=win.main.tree&_n%5Bp%5D%5Bcontent%5D=mail.compose&to=lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>
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<div>I think that you are miss -reading Carson. He does not want to shaft veterans. Instead of waiting months for service and driving hundreds of miles to a VA Hospital, he wants them to be able to get service at any hospital.</div>
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<div style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(119,119,119);border-left-width:3px;border-left-style:solid">-----Original Message-----<br>Subject: [Vision2020] Ben Carson suggests doing away with Department of Veterans Affairs<br>From: "Tom Hansen" <<a href="http://index.html?_n%5Bp%5D%5Bmain%5D=win.main.tree&_n%5Bp%5D%5Bcontent%5D=mail.compose&to=thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <<a href="http://index.html?_n%5Bp%5D%5Bmain%5D=win.main.tree&_n%5Bp%5D%5Bcontent%5D=mail.compose&to=vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>Date: 08/28/15 20:16:12<br><br><div>Just as you think you've heard everything ignorant, in comes Ben Carson to prove you wrong.</div>
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<div>Courtesy of <i>Stars and Stripes</i> at:</div>
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<div><a href="http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/ben-carson-suggests-doing-away-with-department-of-veterans-affairs-1.364984" target="_blank">http://www.stripes.com/news/veterans/ben-carson-suggests-doing-away-with-department-of-veterans-affairs-1.364984</a></div>
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<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson suggested eliminating the Department of Veterans Affairs in a talk radio interview Wednesday, leading to swift condemnation from one veterans group.</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The former Johns Hopkins pediatric neurosurgeon said problems with the Veterans Affairs health system are discouraging people from joining the military in the first place and said there needed to be a single system to take care of active duty troops as well as those who are no longer serving.</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"We don't need a Department of Veterans Affairs," Carson told host Dave Ramsey. "Veterans Affairs should be folded in under the Department of Defense. And it should be a smooth transition. We need to be looking at the way we take care of soldiers."</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Instead of the current system that provides treatment for veterans at government-run hospitals, Carson suggested that they should have a health savings account that would pay for treatment at any medical facility. The VA facilities could then be used for specialized treatments for traumatic brain injuries and limb replacements - problems that particularly afflict veterans.</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But Paul D. Eaton, a retired Army major general and adviser to progressive political group <a href="http://VoteVets.org" target="_blank">VoteVets.org</a>, said Carson's plan was an insult to veterans.</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Rather than think of ways to nickel and dime our veterans, Dr. Carson should be thinking of other areas of fat in government - particularly in defense contracts - that can be cut, so we can hire more doctors and caregivers, to provide returning veterans with the kind of care they earned," Eaton said in a statement.</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">In the past 18 months the VA health system has been shaken by revelations that some doctors manipulated wait lists and fresh questions over the availability of care for veterans. Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert A. McDonald, who was put in place to clean up the department, is scheduled to be in Baltimore next week to address the American Legion convention.</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Henry Howard, a spokesman for the American Legion, said the problems have been a priority for veterans, but that most former service members are happy with the care that they get through the VA.</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px 0px 11px;padding:0px;outline:0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"A large percent of veterans getting healthcare are great, the veterans love it," he said.</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div>
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