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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Paul,<br><br>I don't think it's an overreaction on the school's part, and I don't think it's simply the administration protecting their own jobs. Unlikely as it is that the threat was real, students and adults have done horrendous things in our schools and administrators have to take these matters seriously.<br><br>I agree with you that the student who did this likely needs help and didn't anticipate how badly this can turn out. Children especially have a hard time understanding consequences. That's why I disagree with Tom when he says,<br><div><br></div><div>"I am suggesting that, once the child who wrote those
threats is identified, (s)he is punished sufficiently, allowing the
imposed punishment to become public knowledge (without identifying the
child), as to prevent a reoccurrence."<br><br>I understand that people will want to punish the child, whose identity WILL soon be known by all if he or she is found and prosecuted or punished. I don't think the prosecution and punishment will do much to prevent a recurrence. People who act impulsively, particularly children, do not usually take consequences into account.<br><br>Sunil<br></div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: moscowcares@moscow.com<br>Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:52:51 -0800<br>To: paul.rumelhart@gmail.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Threatening notes found at Moscow's Russell Elementary<br><br><div>Mr. Rumelhart . . .</div><div><br></div><div>I am not talking about "putting up the metal detectors". </div><div><br></div><div>I am suggesting that, once the child who wrote those threats is identified, (s)he is punished sufficiently, allowing the imposed punishment to become public knowledge (without identifying the child), as to prevent a reoccurrence.</div><div><br></div><div>Inappropriate behavior should not be tolerated. </div><div><br></div><div>Parents are already having a tough-enough problem lecturing to their offspring that cheaters never prosper (<span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">what with deflated footballs and the wide use of steroids in Major League Baseball).</span></div><div><br></div><div>Ya pickin' up what I'm layin' down now?<br><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div></div><div><br>On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div>It's far more likely that the child in question, whoever it is, used that particular threat because they knew it made the grownups shit their drawers and because they didn't foresee the veritable shitstorm that was about to descend upon them because of it. Sure, it's possible that there is some fourth grader polishing their AR-15 right now, thinking about how much ammo to bring tomorrow, but I doubt it. Stranger things have happened, I suppose.<br><br></div><div>I do hope they find out who it was. It sounds like he or she could use some help.<br><br></div><div>I guess the officials at the school had to do something or they would lose their jobs if the kid did bring a weapon to school. I'm just hoping that we wait a tic before we put up the metal detectors.<br></div><div><br></div>Paul<br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div>So, Mr. Rumelhart . . .</div><div><br></div><div>You are willing to write this off as a joke akin to "political correctness"? When does a "joke" end? </div><div><br></div><div>When these same kids follow-up these threats with taking their toy guns to school? </div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">When these same kids follow-up these threats with taking their parents' real guns to school? </span></div><div><br></div><div>When another student is accidentally shot w<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">hen these same kids follow-up these threats with taking their parents' real guns to school? </span></div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps then we will realize that something should have been done back when "meaningless" threats were made on paper.</div><div><br></div><div>Right, Mr. Rumelhart?<span><br><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"><br></span></div></span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><span><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"><br></span></div></span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"> </span></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" target="_blank">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr">Well, I guess the kids need to learn about political correctness and overreaction by authorities at some point in their lives. Might as well be now.<br><br>Paul<br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div>Courtesy of the Moscow-Pullman Daily News.</div><div><br></div><div>---------------------------------------</div><div><h1 style="padding:0px;font-weight:400;line-height:34px;font-size:30px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="padding:0px;color:rgb(204,0,0);line-height:38px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Threatening notes found at Moscow's Russell Elementary; school on 'modified lockdown'</span></h1><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Russell Elementary School in Moscow is on modified lockdown today after school officials were made aware of handwritten notes found Monday threatening harm to others at the school.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">“From the handwriting and content we believe it was a student,” Moscow School District Superintendent Greg Bailey said.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Bailey said the writer allegedly threatened to bring a weapon to school because he or she hates school and reading. Teachers assembled after classes Monday to examine the note and try to identify the penmanship, Bailey said.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">He said the Moscow Police Department spoke to a few students and their families but were unable to make a determination.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">The modified lockdown at Russell consists of exterior doors being locked during school hours and when children are outside and placing extra support staff with students.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Bailey said three plainclothes detectives and some police officers will keep an increased presence at the school in the meantime.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Lt. Dave Lehmitz said the investigation is continuing and police and school officials will assess the possibility of continued precautions as the day goes on.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">“We hope anyone with information will contact the Moscow Police Department,” Lehmitz said. “First and foremost is the safety of children and staff.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">To provide information to the police about this situation, call (208) 882-COPS.</span></p></div><div>---------------------------------------<br><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">"Moscow Cares"</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div> </div></font></span></div></div></div><br>=======================================================<br>
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