<div dir="ltr">Quotes from the article:<br><div>"<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Some of the legislators who voted to defeat the bill expressed their willingness to support a future compromise bill.</span><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15pt;background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px none;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">"We
 have come a long way. I think this very hearing has brought us a long, 
long way," said Rep. Ken Andrus, R-Lava Hot Springs, addressing 
supporters of the bill. "Do not despair. Your concerns are legitimate, 
very legitimate, and people in Idaho and in the Legislature have heard 
you and are hearing you."</span></p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">But,
 he added, "We have to be very careful how we make those rules and today
 my feeling is that this is not the rule that addresses the whole 
picture.""<br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">-and-<br><br>"</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Earlier
 this week, the Idaho Attorney General's Office issued an opinion in the
 form of a letter dated Jan. 26 to Rep. Ilana Rubel stating that the 
proposed Add the Words bill would not force clergy to marry gay couples,
 nor would its passage likely impair any Idahoan's freedom of speech, 
specifically as it relates to someone's ability to express views about 
homosexuality. The letter, signed by Assistant Chief Deputy Brian Kane, 
was in response to three questions posed to the AG's Office by Rep. 
Rubel."<br><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">I can totally understand not wanting to force clergy to marry specific people and I can also understand not wanting to go against freedom of speech by limiting someone's ability to state their religious views on a topic, but then I've always been anti-pc.<br><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">What does the bill say exactly about forcing clergy to marry gay couples and what is it in the bill that they object to on freedom of speech grounds?  Is Rep. Andrus being obtuse or is there actually something in the bill which could be construed to do what he fears?  If there is wording in the bill that could be construed that way, could a compromise be reached?<br><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Paul<br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Saundra Lund <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p>For those who think I'm employing hyperbole, I can only assume you didn't listen to the same public testimony I did.<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p><a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/01/29/3617387_idaho-house-committee-to-debate.html?rh=1" target="_blank">http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/01/29/3617387_idaho-house-committee-to-debate.html?rh=1</a><u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:22.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:22.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Idaho House committee rejects Add the Words bill along party-line vote</span></b><b><span style="font-size:22.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;text-transform:uppercase">BY STATESMAN STAFF<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">January 29, 2015</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#666666;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Idaho's House State Affairs Committee voted 13-4 on Thursday morning to defeat a bill that would have added the words "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the state's Human Rights Act. The vote fell along party lines.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Some of the legislators who voted to defeat the bill expressed their willingness to support a future compromise bill.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">"We have come a long way. I think this very hearing has brought us a long, long way," said Rep. Ken Andrus, R-Lava Hot Springs, addressing supporters of the bill. "Do not despair. Your concerns are legitimate, very legitimate, and people in Idaho and in the Legislature have heard you and are hearing you."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">But, he added, "We have to be very careful how we make those rules and today my feeling is that this is not the rule that addresses the whole picture."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The approved motion to block the bill was made by Andrus.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Thursday's vote came after nearly 21 hours of public testimony Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. After a closing statement from Sen. Cherie Buckner-Webb, D-Boise, committee members made a several motions and statements before the deciding vote to hold the bill in committee.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">"I know what it's like to walk in fear and uncertainty," Buckner-Webb said. "I know what it’s like to face the fear of being treated with disdain and to be diminished. I know the energy it takes to constantly be on guard. I stand before you today compelled to call out for the right that some in their privilege continue to take for granted."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">An amended motion to move the bill to the entire House without a committee recommendation that it be passed was defeated 13-4. A different amended version, to move the bill to the House floor with a do-pass recommendation from the committee, also failed by a 13-4 vote.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">"These are good human beings that deserve the same right and privilege that everybody else does," said Rep. Melissa Wintrow, D-Boise. "Even if we vote to pass it to the floor, that would at least give it its time for everyone to vote."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Loertscher noted that the committee was "past 22 hours now on this project."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">"Every member of this committee is changed because of this process," he said. But, he added, he feared the financial burden for people to "defend themselves against government action or the actions of another."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">"I am certainly open to something that will work for the state of Idaho. This is not that bill," he said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Tears flowed among spectators who filled the Lincoln auditorium as the votes were cast defeating the legislation. After the voting was done, supporters filed out and lined the corridor in silent protest, their hands over their mouths, many still crying or stifling sobs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The committee took testimony this week from 190 people — 134 in favor, 54 against and two neutral.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Advocates of adding anti-discrimination protections for Idahoans based on sexual orientation or gender identity have sought legislative action for nine years. This was the first year the Legislature held hearings.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Even so, the bill wasn't expected to move out of committee. As reported Tuesday by the Statesman, the committee's makeup (13 Republicans versus four Democrats) and the split in testimony provided an uphill battle for bill supporters. Several lawmakers had said privately that simply hearing the bill is the first step in a process that likely to take several years.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Earlier this week, the Idaho Attorney General's Office issued an opinion in the form of a letter dated Jan. 26 to Rep. Ilana Rubel stating that the proposed Add the Words bill would not force clergy to marry gay couples, nor would its passage likely impair any Idahoan's freedom of speech, specifically as it relates to someone's ability to express views about homosexuality. The letter, signed by Assistant Chief Deputy Brian Kane, was in response to three questions posed to the AG's Office by Rep. Rubel.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><a href="http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2015/01/28/10/18/DngRt.So.36.pdf#storylink=relast" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#2c6591;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none">Read the AG's Office response here</span></a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Kane wrote that Rubel's question about whether "federal (or state) law already exist which protects gays/transgender people in Idaho from discrimination in employment, housing and public services/accommodations?" could not be answered with a "simple 'yes' or 'no' because the relevant law is not settled."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Add the Words advocates applauded the legal opinion. Cindy Gross, an Add the Words organizer, said in a release Wednesday: "There was a significant amount of confusion about what the results of this bill would be, and I am happy to see an opinion from the AG's office so that we can avoid the mischaracterization of this bill."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Also Tuesday, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints officials made news with their<a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/01/27/3613540/mormon-leaders-gay-rights-religious.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#2c6591;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none">nationwide call for new laws that protect gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people</span></a></span><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">from discrimination while somehow also protecting those who suffer repercussions for asserting their religious beliefs toward these people.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">On Wednesday, the Statesman's editorial board came out</span><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/01/28/3615005/only-acceptable-move-add-the-words.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#2c6591;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none">in support of the Add the Words legislation,</span></a></span><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">writing in part: "Any rejection of the amendment in House Bill 2 from here on out is tantamount to endorsing discrimination against gay and transgender people."<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;max-width:620px!important;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The front page of Wednesday's Statesman featured a controversial peel-off sticker ad that read, in part, "Add No Words." It was paid for by an Idaho man named Lance Wells who says he wants to "draw people closer to God." Anger over the ad</span><span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/01/28/3615900_upset-about-the-sticker-ad-on.html?rh=1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#2c6591;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none">prompted a note from Statesman Publisher Mike Jung</span></a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br>Read more here: <a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/01/29/3617387_idaho-house-committee-to-debate.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy" target="_blank">http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/01/29/3617387_idaho-house-committee-to-debate.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p><p><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><br>=======================================================<br>
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