<div dir="ltr">Pipeline denier.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Scott Dredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">In short, Keystone XL is a hoax.<br><div class="hm HOEnZb"><br></div><div><div class="hm HOEnZb"><hr>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Worst News from Yesterday's Election<br>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:14:57 -0800<br>CC: <a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a></div><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div>JEESH ! </div><div><br></div><div>How about a link to substantiate your "claims", Mr. Force?</div><div><br></div><div>What a pack of lies !</div><div><br></div><div>Foreign trade zone?</div><div><br></div><div>Mostly diesel?</div><div><br></div><div>How's this for a question . . .</div><div><br></div><div>A water main (80,000 [EIGHTY THOUSAND] gallons per hour) in Los Angeles, broke a few months ago. It took city crews 90 (NINETY) minutes to respond.</div><div><br></div><div>How soon would you anticipate crews to respond to a broken pipeline (estimated 830,000 [EIGHT HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND] barrels per day) in a farm field out in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska over the Ogallala Aquifer (which provides drinking water to 80% (EIGHTY PERCENT) of the midwest population?</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://nextgenclimate.org/keystone/keystone-xl-and-the-ogallala-aquifer-the-stakes-couldnt-be-higher/" target="_blank">https://nextgenclimate.org/keystone/keystone-xl-and-the-ogallala-aquifer-the-stakes-couldnt-be-higher/</a><br><br>And, what pipeline is currently being used to deliver oil to Houston . . . as you claim?<br><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></div><div><br>On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Ron Force <<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div>Yep, Texas likes it:</div><ul style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><li>The main purpose of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline is to make this oil available for export. Keystone XL would divert Canadian oil from refineries in the Midwest to the Gulf Coast.</li><li>These refineries are in Foreign Trade Zones where oil may be exported to international buyers <em>without </em>paying U.S. taxes. (PSR Website, but easily found elsewhere)</li></ul><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">The refined product would be mostly diesel, bound for the European market.
Beneficiaries are Texas refineries. Some oil is already arriving by pipeline. Keystone XL is just an expansion.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA </div><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr">
<font face="Arial"> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:29 PM, Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div><div><div><div>Saw a big banner from Houston, "WELCOME KEYSTONE."<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><br clear="none">On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Scott Dredge <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Or it could be considered 'The Best News from Yesterdays Election' depending on your political stripe and / or profession. Is anyone taking bets on Keystone XL?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><hr>From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:20:33 -0800<br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: [Vision2020] The Worst News from Yesterday's Election<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div><table style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px;max-height:1000000px;width:877px"><tbody style="padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;max-height:1000000px"><tr style="padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;max-height:1000000px"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="padding:5px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;vertical-align:middle;max-height:1000000px"><span style="padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;max-height:1000000px;display:block;min-height:20px"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.fark.com/goto/8479786/http://io9.com/the-worst-news-from-yesterdays-elections-1655150025" style="max-height:1000000px;min-height:76px;vertical-align:middle;text-decoration:none;display:block" target="_blank"><font color="#000000"><span>Remember Senator Inhofe (R-OK) calling climate change "the greatest
hoax ever perpetrated on the American people" and comparing the Environmental Protection Agency to the GeStaPo? Guess who will be the next chair of the Senate's Environment Committee.</span></font></a></span></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="padding:5px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;vertical-align:middle;max-height:1000000px;width:80px;text-align:center"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.fark.com/comments/8479786/Remember-Senator-Inhofe-R-calling-climate-change-greatest-hoax-ever-perpetrated-on-American-people-comparing-Environmental-Protection-Agency-to-GeStaPo-Guess-who-will-be-next-chair-of-Senates-Environment-Committee" style="max-height:1000000px;text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">(227) </font></a><div style="padding:0px 0px 4px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;vertical-align:bottom;max-height:1000000px;min-height:16px"></div></td></tr></tbody></table><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div>Courtesy of <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://io9.com/" target="_blank">io9.com</a> at:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://io9.com/the-worst-news-from-yesterdays-elections-1655150025" target="_blank">http://io9.com/the-worst-news-from-yesterdays-elections-1655150025</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>--------------------------------------</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><b>The Worst News from Yesterday's
Election</b></div><div>Filed November 5, 2014 3:30 pm</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="padding:0px"><span>Senator James M. Inhofe, the Oklahoma Republican who calls climate change "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people" and compared the Environmental Protection Agency to the gestapo, will <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120134/climate-change-denier-james-inhofe-lead-environment-committee" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">"almost certainly"</a> be <span>the next chair of the Senate's Environment and Public Works Committee.</span></span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span>Senator Inhofe, who is poised to become the most powerful senator on the environment, is the same man who has compared the
scientific consensus over manmade global warming to <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2006/07/24/6477/inhofe-third-reich/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Adolf Hitler's conception of the Jewish conspiracy</a>.</span></div><div style="padding:0px"></div><div style="padding:0px"><span>Now, you might be asking yourself: <i>Wait, is this the guy who compared the demonization of carbon dioxide to Hitler's demonization of Jews? </i>No. You're thinking of <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://io9.com/climate-change-denying-physicist-compares-carbon-dioxid-1607297863" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">climate-denying physicist William Harper</a>. Senator Inhofe has a completely different Third-Reichian climate change theory. <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2006/07/24/6477/inhofe-third-reich/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">In a 2006 interview with Tulsa World</a>, Inhofe said of the scientific consensus on manmade climate change:</span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span>"It kind of reminds... I could use the Third Reich, the big lie," Inhofe said.</span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span>Only Inhofe kind of flubbed the reference*. The "Big Lie," (or Große Lüge, in German) was a term <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">coined by Adolf Hitler in </a><i><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Mein Kampf</a></i> to describe the propaganda technique of Jews who
purportedly told lies "so colossal" that no one would believe "others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously." (Yes, the climate scientists in this analogy are the Jews.)</span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span>So, to clarify:</span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span><span>"</span><span>Jews are carbon dioxide that we are demonizing" = William Harper.</span></span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span><span>"C</span><span>limate scientists are Jews spreading lies" = Oklahoma Senator James M. Inhofe, the man likely to chair the Environment and Public Works Committee when the GOP takes control of the Senate next year.</span></span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span><span>And to make matters worse, </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2014/11/meet-new-climate-denier-caucus" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Inhofe will be joined by a few climate-denying friends</a><span>.</span></span></div><div style="padding:0px"><span><small>*Of course, Inhofe almost certainly meant to attribute the notion of a "big lie" to the third reich itself, as opposed to Hitler's conceptions of Jewish conspiracy, but we're not going to spend any more time sifting through his intentions, because the fact is that dissecting the meaning of any analogy that conflates climate scientists with Nazis is patently insane.</small></span></div></div><div>--------------------------------------<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . .
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