<div dir="ltr"><div>I can never tell any more which of my (to me) reasonable-sounding posts will ignite a firestorm on this list.<br><br></div>The phrase "heartless bastard" is what I feel like when I tell the nice people on the phone that I won't be giving to their good cause, at least at that time. That's one of the reasons I hate it when charities solicit like that. It feels manipulative, and I don't like it. On the other hand, I don't know what to tell them, other than to back off a little.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Sue Hovey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>There’s nothing there that makes you “sound like a heartless
bastard.” Are you insisting? Sorry, but I make my own
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" target="_blank">Paul Rumelhart</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:53 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="scooterd408@hotmail.com" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">Scott Dredge</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="lfalen@turbonet.com" href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen</a> ; <a title="suehovey@moscow.com" href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">Sue Hovey</a> ; <a title="rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Ron Force</a> ; <a title="thansen@moscow.com" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">Tom Hansen</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">Vision 2020</a> </div><div><div class="h5">
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div>This is a huge pet peeve of mine. Some charities are not so bad, I
gave some money to <a href="http://globalgiving.org" target="_blank">globalgiving.org</a> for
Japan tsunami relief, and they didn't flood me with solicitations (maybe once a
year or so I get something from them in an email). Give some money to
certain charities associated with breast cancer, children's cancer, or some of
the Native American groups, and you'll never hear the end of it. They are
all worthy recipients of my hard-earned cash, but *I* like to be the one who
decides when and to whom I give charity to. I don't just sit around
waiting to see who can best convince me of their worth. I do the research
on my own. I'm sure that makes me sound like a heartless bastard, but I'm
beyond caring any more what people on this list think of me.<br><br></div>I
think I'll switch to anonymous donations, too.<br></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Scott Dredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I donated to DAV years ago and now they've spent more money than
I gave them mailing me solicitation letters asking me to give them more
money. It's very disappointing. They're not the only ones who
engage in this tactic and it's become a secondary reason of why I have now
switched to making one-time only anonymous donations. <br><br>
<div>> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:27:24 -0700<br>> To: <a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>; <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>>
From: <a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a><br>> CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
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<div><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed<br>> <br>>
Don't feel too bad about it Sue. While the information may not have been up to
date. Those with a poor rating were still not vary good in the Snopes piece
and those listed as good were still fairly good in the Snopes article. One
charity that consistently has a high rating by Charity Navigator is Doctors
Without Borders.<br>> Roger<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
-----Original Message-----<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: greed<br>>
From: "Sue Hovey" <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>><br>> To: "Ron Force" <<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>>,
"Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>> Date: 10/21/14
00:29:50<br>> <br>> Oh, dear. I am so sorry. I got
this from a trusted friend whose face is going to be VERY red when I send him
this Snopes piece. Thanks so much Ron for the information. Sue
hovey From: Ron Force Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014
7:13 PMTo: Tom Hansen ; Sue Hovey Cc: Vision 2020 Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Fw: greed You may wish to refer to the following
documentation from <a href="http://snopes.com" target="_blank">snopes.com</a>,
which says the information is either outdated and/or outright
false:<br>> <a href="http://snopes.com" target="_blank">snopes.com</a>:
Executive Salaries in Charities <a href="http://snopes.com" target="_blank">snopes.com</a>: Executive Salaries in CharitiesArticle compares
the salaries of top executives of several large charitable organizations. View
on www.snopes.comPreview by YahooRon Force<br>> Moscow Idaho USA <br>>
<br>> On Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:44 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>>
wrote:<br>> <br>> <br>> Although there is one national organizations
to whom we donate . . . Disabled American Veterans (of which I am a member) .
. . Moscow Cares primarily donates locally and regularly . . . Humane Society
of the Palouse . . . Sojourners Alliance . . . Trinity Moscow Food Pantry . .
. Alternative to Violence of the Palouse . . . Heart of the Arts, Inc . . .
Palouse Habitat for Humanity . . . Latah County Human Rights Task Force . . .
to name just a few. We prefer local donations knowing that 100% of the
donation will go toward the purpose for which it was intended. We have, and
always will encourage contributions to local entities (I dislike the word
"charity"). After all . . . "That's What Friends are For"<a href="http://www.TomandRodna.com/Songs/What_Friends_are_for.mp3Seeya" target="_blank">http://www.TomandRodna.com/Songs/What_Friends_are_for.mp3Seeya</a>
'round town, Moscow, because . . ."Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have
with your pants<br>> on)<a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a> Tom HansenMoscow,
Idaho On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>>
wrote: A message worth sharing from Bill Frye, who never sends me
anything irrelevant. Sue H. From: William Frye Sent: Saturday, October
18, 2014 12:22 PMTo: Bill Pryor ; Harold Munson ; Arthur Armstrong ; Syd Brown
; Sue Hovey ; John Cutmore Subject: Fw:
greed
A timely reminder before our generous spirits open up ourwallets…
How many ways can you spell G R E E D?
THINK BEFORE YOUDONATE! SOMETHING TOTHINK ABOUT BEFORE YOU
MAKECONTRIBUTIONS: Asyou open your pockets to do a good thing and
make yourselffeel good, please keep the following facts inmind:
TheAmerican Red CrossPresident and CEO Marsha J.Evans' salary for the year was
$651,957plus expenses MARCH OFDIMESIt is called the March<br>> ofDimes
because only a dime forevery 1 dollar is given to theneedy.
TheUnited WayPresident BrianGallagher receives a $375,000 base salaryalong
with numerous expense benefits. UNICEFCEO Caryl M. Sternreceives $1,200,000
per year (100kper month) plus all expenses including a ROLLSROYCE. Less than
5cents of your donated dollar goes to thecause. GOODWILL CEO and owner
Mark Curranprofits $2.3 million a year.Goodwill is avery catchy name for his
business. You donate to his businessand then he sells the items
forPROFIT. He pays nothingfor his products and pays his workers minimum
wage!Nice Guy. INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 goes tohelp anyone! Stop giving to
thisman. Instead, give it to ANY OF THEFOLLOWINGGO "GREEN" ANDPUT YOUR MONEY
WHERE IT WILL DO SOME GOOD: TheSalvation ArmyCommissioner, Todd
Bassettreceives a small salary of only $13,000 per year(plus housing)
formanaging this<br>> $2 billion dollarorganization.96 percent of donated
dollars goto the cause. TheAmerican LegionNational Commander receivesa
INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zerosalary. Your donations go to helpVeterans and their
families and youth! TheVeterans of Foreign WarsNational Commander
receivesa INSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zerosalary. Your donations go to helpVeterans
and their families and youth! TheDisabled American VeteransNational Commander
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and their families and youth! TheMilitary Order of PurpleHeartsNational
Commander receives aINSERT:CONTENT:END.00 zero salary. Your donations go to
helpVeterans and their families and youth! TheVietnam Veterans
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donations go to helpVeterans and their families and youth! Make aWish: For
children's<br>> lastwishes. 100% goes to funding trips orspecial wishes for
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have critically illChildren in the hospital.100% goes to housing, and
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