<div dir="ltr">I'm not saying I'm not the worst guy on the planet, but that in itself doesn't prove it.<br><br>Paul<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Gary Crabtree <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Whew! There's a load off my mind. I thought that tom's <span>miscontextualized</span> quote meant that you were perhaps the worse guy on the planet. My relief is palpable.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>g</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" target="_blank">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>"But, then, like you said . . . you don't give a damn."<span><br><br></span></div><span>...about what the NFL is doing about it. I just wanted to make that clear.<br><br>Paul<br></span><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="auto"><div>Law enforcement can only respond to what is reported to them.</div><div><br></div><div>Law enforcement is responding to these reports of domestic violence. Some of the players are pending charges as their cases are currently under investigation.</div><div><br></div><div>No charges have been filed against Ray Rice because his wife refuses to pursue the matter. Most jurisdictions will not pursue charges if domestic assault if the victim refuses to pursue the matter. Unfortunately, this is far too common . . . since the abusive spouse is extremely controlling.</div><div><br></div><div>You will notice that I said "most" . . . THANK GOD for San Diego, who pursues domestic battery charges if there is sufficient evidence (i.e. videos of victim being physically assaulted in an elevator), even if the victim refuses to pursue the matter.</div><div><br></div><div>But, then, like you said . . . you don't give a damn.<span><br><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></span></div><div><div><div><br>On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" target="_blank">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Just out of curiosity, am I the only one who doesn't give a damn what the NFL decides to do about domestic abuse? I'm more interested in what law enforcement does about it.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div>Mr. Dredge stated:</div><span><div><br></div><div><span>"</span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">On this note, the player's union is claiming that the elevator video provided a graphic account of what happened, but no new evidence."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div></span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">What more evidence do you need, Mr. Dredge? The second video (publicly released over a week ago) clearly shows Ray Rice knocking his wife to the floor of the elevator and dragging her limp, unconscious body out of the elevator.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div>----------------------</div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Mr. Dredge continues . . .</span></div><span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Thus, the additional penalty of a ban from the NFL leveled against Ray Rice amounts to double jeopardy."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div></span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">How is this considered double jeopardy? If I committed a crime (say . . . </span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">assault) and I was fired from my job, would it be wrong to also be criminally charged for that assault?</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div>----------------------</div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Mr. Dredge suggests . . .</span></div><span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"In retrospect, the NFL should have probably dealt with domestic about long ago since it's not exactly a new thing."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div></span><div><span>As more and more cases of domestic violence in the NFL is uncovered (instances involving 5 players identified in the past week) it is becoming painfully clear that this has been going on for quite some time. </span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Why hasn't something been done about it earlier, you ask? The NFL is, in itself, a billion dollar industry. The NFL is also tax-exempt. Cute, huh? Simple logic suggests that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell (who is under pressure to resign by several NFL teams that are under pressure by their sponsors) would hate to see these instances of domestic violence go public, as they may result in a major drop in ticket and product sales.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>----------------------</div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Mr. Dredge concludes with . . .</span></div><span><div><span><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Pictures of OJ's battered wife were released about 20 years ago."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div></span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">O.J. Simpson was tried. I may not agree with the acquittal(s), but he WAS tried.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div>------------------------------------</div><div><span><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div></span><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></div><span><div><br>On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">On this note, the player's union is claiming that the elevator video provided a graphic account of what happened, but no new evidence. Thus, the additional penalty of a ban from the NFL leveled against Ray Rice amounts to double jeopardy. In retrospect, the NFL should have probably dealt with domestic about long ago since it's not exactly a new thing. Pictures of OJ's battered wife were released about 20 years ago.</blockquote></span></div></div></div><br>=======================================================<br>
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