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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><<span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In my opinion, and my father's experience as an LAPD cop for 36 years, guns and liquor don't mix.></span><br><br>Well by all means there should be laws against drinking and brandishing firearms to combat this out of control problem. Especially considering that DUI laws work so well at preventing those in a drunken stupor from plowing into innocent bystanders.<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: thansen@moscow.com<br>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:46:51 -0700<br>To: paul.rumelhart@gmail.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Patrons speak out about Perch changes<br><br><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As far as the "connection" between beer and guns is concerned . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">In my opinion, and my father's experience as an LAPD cop for 36 years, guns and liquor don't mix.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Now, concerning the city council and Perch's application to sell beer by-the-drink . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/072114_05_PerchReqBeerWineLic300ft.htm" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.moscowcares.com/072114_05_PerchReqBeerWineLic300ft.htm</font></a></div><br><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div style=""><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div style=""><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div><div style=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div></div><div style=""><br>On Aug 29, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote style=""><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>What was the reasoning for the city council decision? I don't remember hearing about this.<br><br></div>And what's the connection to guns?<br><br></div>Paul<br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div>Ah, yes . . . Back when guns were not allowed on campus.</div><div><br></div><div>Courtesy of the August 28th edition of the UI Argonaut at:</div>
<div><br></div><div><span><a href="http://www.uiargonaut.com/2014/08/28/patrons-react/" target="_blank">http://www.uiargonaut.com/2014/08/28/patrons-react/</a></span></div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------------------</div>
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Patrons react — Students speak out about Perch changes, show support, share memories</h2><p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">The porch is packed with college students, neon beer signs hang in the window and party music lingers in the background at The Perch — just a few feet away from the University of Idaho’s famed Hello Walk.<span style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"></span></span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">It was a typical weekend night at The Perch, and the scene has made the store a beloved hangout for UI students.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">“It’s a perfect little spot,” said Dradin Kreft, a Perch patron and a senior nutrition major at UI.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Many UI students have expressed remorse over a unanimous decision by the Moscow City Council this summer that prevents The Perch from selling alcohol for on-site consumption.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Located near Old Greek Row, Kreft said The Perch offered a convenient alternative to walking downtown for a drink. He said the storeowner offered great prices on-tap beer, knew students by name and created a welcoming environment for patrons.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Kreft said he would miss going to The Perch after Friday classes to catch up with friends over a beer.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">“We’re not going to be able to do that anymore,” he said.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">
<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Like many other Vandals, Kreft said he has many memorable moments at The Perch.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">He recalled his 21st birthday last March, when his father came to Moscow to help celebrate the day and the two shared his first legal drink at The Perch.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">The “21 run” at The Perch is a tradition within many Greek houses, said Allison Sullivan, a member of Delta Gamma Sorority.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Although Sullivan has not made the run yet, she said hanging out with fellow sisters at The Perch is a good time, and a tradition that will be missed. She hopes The Perch will be pouring drinks before her own 21st birthday in November.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Kreft said he appreciated that The Perch did not have an intense drinking environment like many of the bars downtown that serve hard liquor.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">UI student Peter Rustemeyer said the store was a hangout spot for many students — particularly those in the Greek community.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">“The Perch was a really nice place to go with our friends and meet new friends,” he said.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Zach Cosgrove, a junior mechanical engineering student, said what he enjoyed most about going to The Perch was hanging out with friends.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">“It’s just a fun place to be,” he said. “It’s more of just a social thing.”</span></p><p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">
<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Kreft said The Perch has been involved in the campus community, and even partnered with his fraternity, Phi Delta Theta, to raise money for the fraternity’s national nonprofit, the ALS Association.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">The Perch also donated hundreds of dollars to the nonprofit as part of a promotion with the fraternity’s annual Turtle Derby.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">The well-known business continues to resonate with UI alumni years later.</span></p><p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;">
<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">John Weber, a Moscow city council member and UI alumni, said he remembers The Perch as a popular malt shop that served hamburgers and milkshakes, and even had a jukebox and pinball machine.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">He said he remembers delivering Wonder Bread to The Perch years later as a Hostess Products delivery driver, and went on to even install the draft system inside the business today.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Another city council member, Wayne Krauss, said he recalls The Perch as a convenient grocery store on campus that served canned beer for off-site consumption.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">For regular patrons like Kraft, he said he hopes The Perch will return to pouring drinks as soon as possible.</span></p>
<p style="padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">“Bring it back,” he said. “Whatever they have to do.”</span></p></div><div>-------------------------------------</div>
<div><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div>
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<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);">- John Lennon</span></div>
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