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<body><div>Glad to see you're sticking to type, Scott, with your predictable denial that race has anything to do with anything. I put that in the same category as the idiotic comment you made that felons don't have problems finding jobs & housing. Just plain ignorant and living in some imaginary World According to Scott that has no connection to reality.<br></div>
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<div>For me, there are lots of things that concern me about Ferguson, and yes, race is one of the things, although not necessarily with respect to the actual killing of Mike Brown Jr. That's a question I don't think will ever be answered.<br></div>
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<div>But, the fact of the matter -- for me -- is I think anyone who isn't concerned when police shoot & kill unarmed people is an idiot. That concern doesn't necessarily mean that the killing was dirty, but to not concerned? Idiotic. I actually think gun-wielding agents of the State have a higher duty to preserve life than do thugs. Go figure.<br></div>
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<div>I also think Ferguson gave the whole country -- at least those not living under rocks -- a good picture of the real life consequences of the militarization of the police. Paul, I think, has posted on that topic a few times, so it's . . . curious to me he didn't bring up the topic with such a great real world example.<br></div>
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<div>There are several other significant concerns, but I really don't see much reason to engage in discussion with you since you predictably want to boil everything down to "race baiting."<br></div>
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<div>On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 01:50 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div>I'd guess they will show up in droves. Race baiting and anti-establishment sentiment are effective in mobilizing young people who are more driven by peer pressure and emotion in jumping to conclusions rather than rationally waiting for all for the facts surrounding this tragic event to emerge and coming to an informed opinion.<br></div>
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<div>As for me, I'll keep an open mind that this could be 'racist cop shoots and kills black kid minding his own business', but until I'm convinced beyond a reasonable doubt I won't be rendering a verdict.<br></div>
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<div>On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:12 PM, "Saundra Lund" <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;">Here’s hoping our local college students make me proud </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style="font-family: Wingdings;"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;">J</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;"> I’ve given my hubby a head’s up to be aware & hopeful that some of his students walk out tomorrow morning and to not take it personally </span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style="font-family: Wingdings;"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;">J</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></span></span><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></span></span><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;">I’m curious: is anyone here planning on going to Spokane Tuesday to participate in the rally?</span></span></span><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></span></span><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></span></span><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;">Saundra</span></span></span><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;"></span></span></span><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><b><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;">From:</span></span></b><span class="font" style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt;"> Amnesty International USA [<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:alerts@takeaction.amnestyusa.org">mailto:alerts@takeaction.amnestyusa.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> <br><b>Subject:</b> Solidarity with Ferguson</span></span></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><br></p><div><div align="center"><table width="650" style="background: white; width: 487.5pt;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0in;" colspan="3"><div align="center"><table width="650" style="background: white; width: 487.5pt;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="25" style="padding: 0in; width: 18.75pt;"><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; line-height: 0%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: black;"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10pt;"><img width="25" height="104" alt="template image" src="https://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/action.retrievefile.do?ea.client.id=1839&ea_filename=etem-top_mobile_01.gif"></span></span></span><br></p></td><td width="242" style="padding: 0in; width: 181.5pt;"><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; line-height: 0%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: black;"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10pt;"><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273186&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><img width="242" height="104" alt="Amnesty International USA Action Alert" src="https://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/action.retrievefile.do?ea.client.id=1839&ea_filename=etem-email_logo_mobile.jpg" border="0"></span></a></span></span></span><br></p></td><td width="358" style="padding: 0in; width: 268.5pt;"><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; line-height: 0%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: black;"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10pt;"><img width="358" height="104" alt="template image" src="https://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/action.retrievefile.do?ea.client.id=1839&ea_filename=etem-top03.gif" border="0"></span></span></span><br></p></td><td width="25" style="padding: 0in; 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</td></tr><tr><td width="25" style="padding: 0in; width: 18.75pt;" rowspan="2"><br></td><td width="600" style="background: rgb(160, 10, 50); padding: 0in; width: 6.25in;"><p style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;'><b><span class="colour" style="color: white;"><span class="size" style="font-size: 22.5pt;">Solidarity with Ferguson, Missouri</span></span></b><br></p></td><td width="25" style="padding: 0in; width: 18.75pt;" rowspan="2"><br></td></tr><tr><td width="600" style="padding: 11.25pt 0in 7.5pt; width: 6.25in;"><table width="210" align="right" style="width: 157.5pt; margin-left: 11.25pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="background: rgb(242, 240, 240); padding: 0in 0in 3.75pt;"><p align="center" style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: black;"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10pt;"><img width="210" height="40" alt="Get Involved" src="https://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/action.retrievefile.do?ea.client.id=1839&ea_filename=etem-getinvolved2.jpg" border="0"><br><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273187&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><img width="175" src="https://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/action.retrievefile.do?ea.client.id=1839&ea_filename=email-ferguson.jpg" border="0"></span></a></span></span></span></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153);"><span class="size" style="font-size: 7pt;">Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images</span></span><br></p><p style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10.5pt;">A police officer in Ferguson, Missouri fatally shot unarmed teenager Michael Brown on August 9.<br><br>This week, the Ferguson community is asking us to take to the streets.</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10.5pt;">Dear Saundra & Bill,<br><br>On August 9, Mike Brown, an unarmed 18-year old, was shot by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. It’s moments like this that draw us in, and that demand solidarity, because all lives matter and human rights are at stake. <br><br>You have taken action online. Now, the Ferguson community is asking for us to take to the streets: </span></p><ul style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><li style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;'><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10.5pt;">On Monday, August 25, Mike Brown's family is laying him to rest. <b><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'>Ferguson community members are asking college students to <a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273188&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0">walk out of their classes at 1pm EST/10am PST</a> and assemble in solidarity with victims and survivors of police brutality. <a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273189&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0">Will you join them?</a></span></b></span></span><br></li><li style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;'><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10.5pt;">For the rest of the week, people around the world are rallying at U.S. federal buildings and U.S. embassies to <b><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'>call on the Department of Justice to create policies that respect human rights</span></b>. We'll be joining, and we want you to stand with us and with the people of Ferguson in your own communities. <b><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273190&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0">Find a rally here!</a></span></b></span></span><br></li></ul><p style='color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in;'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10.5pt;">Since arriving in Ferguson, we have witnessed hundreds of people take to the streets daily to demand human rights. We have also seen law enforcement use tear gas in the crowd, and arrest protestors. There have been blockades on West Florissant Street for days; journalists have been cleared from the area, and we’ve been kept from full access to protestors at times. Throughout all of this, we’ve been in awe of the power and resilience of community organizers on the ground who have refused to have their fundamental human rights restricted, and have dedicated themselves to sharing Mike Brown’s story and to demanding change. <br><br>Now is the time for us to join in raising concerns about race and policing, and the impact of militarization on the fundamental right to peacefully assemble. Now is the time to bring together your community to participate in the movement to bring human rights home. <br><br>In Solidarity,<br><br>Kalaya'an Mendoza, Senior Organizer<br>Noor Mir, Associate Field Organizer<br>Amnesty International USA Delegates in Ferguson, MO </span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 7.5pt 0in;" colspan="3"><p align="center" style='text-align: center; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;'><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=273191&ea.campaigner.email=BAD5ZdktWlKbKzOfDY5p9fmkGi65H1302t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0"><b><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(160, 10, 50);"><span class="size" style="font-size: 9pt;"><img width="109" height="46" alt="Donate Now!" src="https://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/action.retrievefile.do?ea.client.id=1839&ea_filename=etem-donatebtn.jpg" border="0"></span></span></b></a><br></p><p style='margin: 0in 0in 0pt; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><span class="colour" style="color: black;"><span class="font" style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'><span class="size" style="font-size: 10pt;"><img width="650" height="50" alt="Amnesty International USA" src="https://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/action.retrievefile.do?ea.client.id=1839&ea_filename=etem-footer-image.jpg" border="0"></span></span></span><br></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding: 7.5pt 0in;" colspan="3"><p align="right" style='text-align: right; color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;'><span class="colour" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"><span class="size" style="font-size: 7.5pt;">© 2014 Amnesty International USA | 5 Penn Plaza, New York, NY 10001 | 212.807.8400 </span></span><br></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div>
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