<div dir="ltr"><div>It would be nice to nail that number down, but all it's going to do is change the expected percentage of students on campus that can defend against a spree shooter by a presumably small number. If it is much higher than we thought, great. Better odds for someone to be able to shoot back. If it's much lower, then, bummer. Pretty much the same odds as last year, then.<br>
<br></div><div>When I get some time, which isn't available right this second, then I'll do some searching online to find the number you have already found.<br></div><div><br></div>Paul<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Moscow Cares <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com" target="_blank">moscowcares@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>Yet, that information is available online.<div class=""><br><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div>
</div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></div></div><div class=""><div><br>On Aug 21, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Gary Crabtree <<a href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class=""><div dir="ltr"><div>That would be none. The enhanced permit did not come into effect until 01 July, 2013.</div><div><br></div><div>g</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" target="_blank">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you for looking that up. How many of those are the enhanced permits?<br>
<br></div>Paul<br></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div>
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<div><div class=""><div>You better update your records, and pass this on to Dan Carscallen . . .</div><div><br></div><div>Although this information is a little outdated (as of December 31, 2010)</div><div><br></div><div>
Your attention is invited to page 80 of the U.S. Government Accountability Office's Report to Congressional Requestors - Gun Control - States' Laws and Requirements for Concealed Carry Permits Vary Across the Nation (dated November 2012) at:</div>
<div><br></div><div><span><a href="http://www.gao.gov/assets/600/592552.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.gao.gov/assets/600/592552.pdf</a></span></div><div><br></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><image.jpeg></div>
<div><br></div><div>I read 76,000 permits issued as of December 31, 2010 (44 months ago).</div><div><div><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div>
</div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" target="_blank">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>I'm perfectly happy taking Dan Carscallen at his word that he did talk to someone in the know about this. However, if you have an official statistic we could look at, then I'd be happy to use that number instead.<br>
<br></div>Paul<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="auto"><div>Ah, yes . . . the unquestionable, irrefutable "someone in the know". Now THERE's a source!</div>
<div><br></div><div>I, too, Mr. Rumelhart, heard from "someone in the know". (S)He tells me that you and Scott Dredge are . . . (Well, that's a topic for another day) . . . *giggle*</div><div><div>
<br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div>
<div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div>
<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:paul.rumelhart@gmail.com" target="_blank">paul.rumelhart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>"<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">P.S.
I asked someone in the know the other day how many enhanced permits
have been issued in the state of Idaho so far. My source thought maybe
there have been about 500. Five hundred in a state of 1,000,000. How
many of those 500 do you suppose are college students? I’m thinking
it’s pretty low, and that all this hype and hyperbole is much ado about
nothing. Now excuse me while I head outside and have a better chance of
getting struck by lightning than I do of getting shot, at least in my
opinion."<br><br></span></div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">That's the sad thing. It's not like spree shooters have been known to comply with firearms permit laws when they are murdering people in cold blood. This particular law has done nothing to stop a spree shooter, except that there is now some small fraction of a 500 in 1,000,000 chance that someone on campus can fire back. Other than that, we are in the exact same position now as we were last year.<br>
</span><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Paul<br></div></div>
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