<div dir="ltr"><div>I would also like to mention that people should remember that science is a journey, not a destination.  As new information comes in,  hypotheses can be invalidated and theories can be tossed for failing to handle new data.  Predictions can fail, and even simple brain-dead assumptions can be shown not to hold.  It's an iterative process, and the fact that hypostheses can be wrong is what makes it so powerful.  The scientific method allows us to learn from our mistakes, which is what separates it from dogma.<br>
<br></div>Paul<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:18 PM, lfalen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I am in some what more agreement with you here than on your previous immigration comments attributed to Bachman. I think that you should listen to scientists when they comment in their field. Just  understand that that scientist do disagree among themselves and that what is currently the preceived wisdom may change with new information.</div>

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<div>On your immigration post, just what is your solution? I do not have one. Just shipping them back like some want to do, does not seem to me to solve anything. And just what are you shipping them back to? It is sensationalism to call them Labor camps. Some sort of facility to house and take care of them would seem to be the humane thing to do. I do not have any answers.</div>

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Date: 07/26/14 07:32<br>Subject: [Vision2020] Stephen Hawking's Blunder on Black Holes Shows Danger of Listening to Scientists<br><br><div></div>
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Stephen Hawking's Blunder on Black Holes Shows Danger of Listening to Scientists, Says Bachmann</h1>
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<div style="margin:0px 0px 28px;padding:0px 50px 0px 0px;border:0px currentColor;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Actually, Dr. Hawking, our biggest blunder as a society was ever listening to people like you," said Rep. Bachmann. "If black holes don't exist, then other things you scientists have been trying to foist on us probably don't either, like climate change and evolution."</span></div>

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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div>
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