<div dir="ltr"><div>Wrong, I DO believe that a woman should be able to make these decisions with who or what ever she wants. I do not believe that it should be up to an employer to be forced to implement these decisions against their conscience and/or will.</div>
<div><br></div><div>g</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Saundra Lund <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" vlink="purple" link="blue"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Ignorance speaking at its worst #1042, Gary, but I’m glad to know you think an employer, rather than a woman and her <b>medical professional</b>, should be making <b>medical decisions</b> for employees.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Or, do you really not know that there are <b>medical reasons</b> doctors prescribe things like IUDs and birth control pills for women, married & single, that condoms don’t provide?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Saundra<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> Gary Crabtree [mailto:<a href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> Saundra Lund<br><b>Cc:</b> vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Birth Control<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Specious argument 42 condoms at Wal-Mart cost about $18.00. No prescription, no doctors visit, and the added benefit of STD protection. If a local gal were to go to the North Central Health Dist. <a href="http://www.idahopublichealth.com/80-family-health/" target="_blank">http://www.idahopublichealth.com/80-family-health/</a> on Palouse River Dr. they give them away like they're party favors. They will also set her up with other forms of birth control on an ability to pay basis. The affordability/availability whine just don't fly.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">g<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Saundra Lund <<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Written by yet another fat white male steeped in unearned privilege with a tired old twist: he thinks it’s his place to tell the rest of us what the “real issues of the day” are.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Bully for him that he thinks birth control pills are cheap at $50/month. That may be the case with the entitled group he runs with, but it certainly isn’t the case for many, many women for whom $50/month may as well be $500/month.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Somehow, I doubt he’d be so dismissive of the concerns of the many were it his religious freedom and Constitutional protections that were being taken away.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><img width="418" height="512" alt="https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10314553_10152256930049639_6700374872161978373_n.png" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CFA019.9F52E430" border="0"></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Saundra</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Moscow, ID</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 14, 2014 6:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> lfalen<br><b>Cc:</b> vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Birth Control</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div>
<div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Courtesy of the July 12, 2014 edition of the Moscow-Pullman Daily News.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">------------------------------------<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><h1 style="background:white;margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:25.5pt"><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:15pt">Reality-Based Lefty</span><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:22.5pt;font-weight:normal">His View: Don't fall for the distraction</span><u></u><u></u></h1>
</div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;outline:0px;float:none"><b>By Chuck Pezeshki</b><u></u><u></u></p><p style="outline:0px;margin-bottom:0pt;float:none">It's not about the money.<u></u><u></u></p><p style="outline:0px;margin-bottom:0pt;float:none">
It's about sending a message.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">- The Joker from<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">"The Dark Knight"<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">
It's only been two weeks since the Supreme Court decided against the federal government and upheld the notion that Hobby Lobby has a right to deny its employees birth control under the Affordable Care Act. The stated reason is because the company owners say certain types of birth control are basically monthly abortions, and since the owners are against abortions, they cannot, in good moral conscience, allow their employees access to these methods.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">There are multiple levels of the implications of the court's decision that one could unpack. For example, are the methods of birth control (IUDs and certain types of pills, for example) abortifacient? The federal government says pregnancy begins with conception and attachment of the egg to the uterine lining. Many religious conservatives maintain pregnancy begins with conception. Therefore, drugs that prevent attachment are not causing abortions under federal definition, but are causing abortions under the religious definition. Who gets to control language?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">The more salient point is this: How does a company, which is a protected entity, get to have religious beliefs? And if this is the case, how does a government enforce any law that a corporation doesn't like? Belief does not require proof - only a declaration of faith. And that can't be argued.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">The whole issue of women having access to modern contraception is arguably at least 100 years old. And the fact that we are arguing about essentially a 100-year-old issue does not bode well for our nation.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">First off, it is absolutely true that if Hobby Lobby's female employees don't have access to all types of birth control, the world is not going to end. There will be plenty of outside providers, such as Planned Parenthood, that will take up the slack. Birth control pills have been actively discussed as a drug to move to the non-prescription aisle in the pharmacy. And they're cheap.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">But the Hobby Lobby attack does take up oxygen from all progressive issues. Because the attack is what psychologists call a "boundary violation" - an intrusion into a personal space where previously half our society felt marginally safe - it triggers an exaggerated response that distracts from focusing on the real issues of the day. Banking reform, underemployment, global warming, mountaintop removal coal mining and going back to war in the Middle East, to name just a few. These are issues with real teeth and real effect. And while we're screaming at each other about birth control, so cleverly launched at the core of our persons, we're letting the clock run on things that profoundly compromise the future of our children and the planet.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">Here's a thought. Look at what other activists on the "physical impact" issues are doing this week. For example, my friend Mike Roselle, of Climate Ground Zero, and two friends are back in Charleston, W.V., doing a Fast for the Mountains against mountaintop removal coal mining. Their incredible efforts, including non-violent civil disobedience, have drawn large attention to the issue, and legislation continues to move to ban this literally Earth-shattering practice.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">Women and men who care about the Hobby Lobby decision and think it's a pivotal moment in our history need to do the same. Get out in the streets. Organize your own protest. It may not change Hobby Lobby's mind, but what it will do is send a powerful message to all employers that this behavior is not going to do much for productivity.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-bottom:0pt">And if protest is not your style, then realize that this decision, more than anything else, whether implicit, or by explicit direction, is a boundary violation, and designed to distract from the real issues with concrete impacts now. Don't let them do it to you.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="outline:0px;margin-bottom:0pt;float:none">Because it's not about the money.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">
------------------------------------<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:black">http://www.MoscowCares.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- John Lennon<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><br>On Jul 14, 2014, at 5:54 PM, lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Read Chuck Pezeshki's (Reality-based Lefty) column in the July 12,13 issue of the Daily New. While I do not exactly agree with his list of higher priorities, his comments on birth control are close to what I have been saying. Some one who knows how might want to post his column to Vision2020.<u></u><u></u></p>
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