<div dir="ltr"><div>Mr. Rumelhart please, from the statist perspective it's only a right if it can in some way be inflicted on someone else. Either by making others pay for it or by forcing the participation of those who would otherwise demure.</div>
<div><br></div><div>g</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Which right is being restricted, a woman's right to free contraceptives?</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
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<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Sunil <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:07 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] A fine point, perhaps.<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr">
I couldn't disagree more. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Roe recognized a woman's right to privacy. Hobby Lobby creates religious rights for legal fictions, and restricts the rights of flesh-and-blood people. HL is not about restricting the power of government and it's naive to think that's its objective. If the government were restricting birth control, as it once did, this majority would have no objection to that exercise of government power.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Sunil<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none">To: <a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>; <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" target="_blank">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 01:20:24 -0600<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A fine point, perhaps.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div><br><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Comparing Burwell v Hobby to Roe v Wade I don't see inconsistency in rulings. In both cases the rulings restricted the power of the government.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a><br clear="none">To: <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" target="_blank">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:14:44 -0700<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A fine point, perhaps.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Great points, Rose, and I’m afraid I agree with your assessment. Thank you for pointing out the obvious even if it’s uncomfortable some.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">It’s long past time for SCOTUS to have to adhere to the same code of ethics federal judges must adhere to.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Saundra</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<div><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rosemary Huskey<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 30, 2014 2:49 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] A fine point, perhaps.</div>
</div></div><div> </div><div>Bias, or perhaps I should say, a predisposition, to adopt a certain philosophical approach to legal issues may be shaped by private values that we trust and hold dear. In light of the Supreme Court decision supporting the Hobby Lobby owners refusal to provide forms of birth control they claim to be at odds with their religious beliefs, I wondered if the court was persuaded not by legal arguments but by their own religious affiliations. Were any of the five
male justices associated with religious groups that uphold the doctrine of patriarchy, i.e., do they attend churches that deny women ministerial or priesthood roles. Guess what? Justice Roberts, Justice Scalia, Justice Thomas, and Justice Alito are Roman Catholic. </div>
<div> </div><div>In contrast, when the decision concerning Roe v Wade was announced in 1973 eight of the nine male justices were members of main stream Protestant churches. There may or may not be a direct correlation between religion affiliation and legal opinions, but it is my firm belief that unearned gender privilege nurtured in the cradle, and deferred to in the church certainly creates an atmosphere that celebrates and bestows unique privilege for male members. And, what could possibly more be patriarchal than controlling women’s reproductive choices?</div>
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