<div dir="ltr"><div>My guess is that they would quit and go to work for Hobby Lobby. Duh!</div><div><br></div><div>g</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<a style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(37,37,37);line-height:1;text-decoration:none" href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/30/1310729/-What-if-a-Muslim-Company-Used-the-Hobby-Lobby-Decision-to-Impose-Its-Values-on-White-Christians" target="_blank">What if a Muslim Company Used the 'Hobby Lobby' Decision to Impose Its Values on White Christians?</a></h2>
<br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/30/1310729/-What-if-a-Muslim-Company-Used-the-Hobby-Lobby-Decision-to-Impose-Its-Values-on-White-Christians?" target="_blank">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/30/1310729/-What-if-a-Muslim-Company-Used-the-Hobby-Lobby-Decision-to-Impose-Its-Values-on-White-Christians?</a></span></div>
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</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Any guesses?</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div>
</div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></div><div><br>On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:14 PM, "Saundra Lund" <<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Tom, I find nothing surprising about this religious hypocrisy because sadly, so-called “sincerely held” religious beliefs that have a long history of being used to oppress and punish those who don’t share those beliefs have an equally long history of being oh, so conveniently & blatantly disregarded when it comes to lining their own financial pockets.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">In my book, that elevates ordinary hypocrisy to rank hypocrisy status, and while they may have been successful at pulling the wool over SCOTUS’s eyes, it doesn’t fool God or any of the rest of us with connected brain cells.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Saundra<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] How's this for hypocrisy . . .<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Courtesy of KDVR-31 (Denver, Colorado) at:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://tinyurl.com/n9qngc5" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/n9qngc5</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:41.5pt">Hobby Lobby 401K plan invests in firms that make contraceptives<u></u><u></u></span></h1><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">
NEW YORK — Hobby Lobby is a craft store chain that says it operates “in a manner consistent with Biblical principles.” Those values extend throughout its business, except when it comes to the company’s retirement plan.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">The company refuses to cover any contraception methods for its employees. Hobby Lobby fought the Affordable Care Act’s mandate that businesses pay for birth control all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and <a href="http://kdvr.com/2014/06/30/supreme-court-rules-businesses-can-refuse-to-provide-contraceptives-to-employees/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">won this week</span></a>.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">“It’s been a long journey, but an important one for our family and for those who wish to be guided in all areas of life, including their businesses by faith and conscience,” Hobby Lobby co-founder Barbara Green said in a<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNYJHCxwx9E" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">statement on YouTube</span></a> after the ruling.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">Hobby Lobby’s founders have made it clear that any form of contraception is unacceptable in their eyes, yet the company’s 401(k) plan has millions of dollars invested in funds that own companies which make birth control pills and Plan B, the so-called “morning after” drug that some equate to abortion.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">Like many companies, Hobby Lobby offers its employees a 401(k) plan. Over 13,000 past and present employees have taken advantage of that plan, according to the <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1099360-savings-incentive-and-profit-sharing-plan-for.html" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">latest documents filed with the Department of Labor</span></a>.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">Employees have the option to put their retirement dollars — and the money that Hobby Lobby contributes on their behalf — into over a dozen different mutual funds.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">At least six of those funds have been invested in companies that produce birth control such as Teva Pharmaceutical, Bayer, and Pfizer, according to an analysis. Teva makes Plan B. One of the funds also held Forest Laboratories, which makes a drug that is used to induce abortions.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">These are huge drug companies that make many different medications. Contraceptives are only part of the mix.<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">
Hobby Lobby has not responded to requests for comment about its retirement plan.<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">Mother Jones broke the story about the company’s 401K plan in April.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">How Hobby Lobby can avoid investing in birth control: There are ways Hobby Lobby could strip out investments dealing with contraceptives.<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">
For example, an investment management firm called Ave Maria Funds offers a “Catholic Values” fund that “screens out two major categories of companies: those involved with abortion and those judged to be anti-family, such as companies which distribute pornographic materials or whose policies undermine the Sacrament of Marriage.”<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">The most recent information available on Hobby Lobby’s retirement funds comes from a 2012 filing with the Department of Labor. At that time, Hobby Lobby used American Funds, T. Rowe Price and Vanguard to manage its money.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">Another option for the company would be to ask its providers such as Vanguard to create a custom portfolio, sometimes dubbed a “separately managed account.” This would essentially put Hobby Lobby’s funds into their own bucket and give the company more control to forbid investments in firms like Teva.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">That said, any time you ask for something special, it often costs more.<u></u><u></u></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">“While it would be possible to create some kind of custom portfolio, I don’t know that that would be feasible in 401(k)-type account given the costs involved. It’s probably doable, but expensive,” says David Blanchett, the head of retirement research for Morningstar Investment Management.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">Figuring out what companies are acceptable and which ones are not is also tricky. Most of the funds Hobby Lobby offers employees are “actively managed,” meaning someone is picking stocks and likely moving them in and out of the portfolio regularly.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.25in;margin-left:0in">While Teva and Pfizer might be off-limits, what about a company like Aetna that is a health care insurer, but puts Plan B on its preferred drug list? Or a hospital owner like Tenet or HCA that might prescribe birth control in their urgent care or emergency rooms?<u></u><u></u></p>
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