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      I made no disparaging remarks about you personally.  I didn't try
      to imply that you had something wrong with you because you thought
      a certain way, I made no insinuations about you in any way.  You
      may have found it offensive, but you cannot categorize it as an
      attack on you.<br>
      <br>
      So which right *is* being restricted? Since we are on the subject.<br>
      <br>
      What if it was a company objecting to paying for homeopathy
      treatments?  Shouldn't employers have a lot to say about what is
      in the benefit packages they provide to their employees?<br>
      <br>
      Paul<br>
      <br>
      On 07/01/2014 05:41 PM, Sunil wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Paul,<br>
        <br>
        I'll bet I'm not the only person who found this offensive:<br>
        <br>
        '<span>Which right is being restricted, a woman's right to free
          contraceptives?'<br>
          <br>
          Maybe people unload on you when you say things that Rush
          Limbaugh does. Don't put on your martyr hat when you say that
          and people respond.<br>
          <br>
          Sunil<br>
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          <hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:23:39 -0700<br>
          From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
          To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A fine point, perhaps.<br>
          <br>
          <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix"><br>
            It's statements like these that I'm objecting to:<br>
            <br>
            "<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">...of

              course it’s of no consequence to <b>you</b> that..."</span><br>
            <br>
            "...<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">but

              it’s good to know you belong in the “tyranny of the
              bigots” category..."<br>
              <br>
              "...</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">why

              on earth should you care that</span>..."<br>
            <br>
            Are they really necessary?  Can't we discuss the issues
            without getting personal?<br>
            <br>
            In response to your question, when I look at my latest pay
            stub (posted for the 3rd of June), I see a line item for "<span
              class="ecxfieldformattext">Employer Contribution for
              Benefits".  It's about $350 in my case, paid by the
              employer per biweek.</span>  I also see employer amounts
            for "Pre-Tax Health Savings Account" (their match for the
            amount I'm putting in my HSA), and "Long" and "Short Term
            Disability Coverage".  Also Medicare, but all employers have
            to pay FHI if I remember correctly.<br>
            <br>
            Paul<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 07/01/2014 01:44 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:<br>
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              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">I
                  was hoping we could actually discuss your thinking
                  without you playing your predictable “why is everybody
                  always picking on me” card to avoid discussing
                  statements you make that you want us to just blindly
                  accept.  I don’t think pointing out the flaws,
                  limitations, and obvious conclusions of your thinking
                  are personal insults, but I’m sorry if your
                  sensitivities made you feel as though they were
                  because that wasn’t my intention.</span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Just

                  as, I assume, you weren’t intending to personally
                  insult those of us with concerns about guns on campus
                  by calling our concerns “irrational fears,” or a lot
                  of other comments you’ve made that might have felt
                  like personal attacks if you were on the receiving
                  end.  What’s that saying?  Something about people in
                  glass houses . . . </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">So,

                  let’s try this <b>one</b> point again:</span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Paul

                  wrote:</span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">“</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">It's

                  subsidized by everyone who pays into it, plus what the
                  employer pays.”</span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">My

                  response is that your statement is incorrect:</span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">“</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">The

                  last time I checked, <b>my husband and I </b>paid
                  100% of the cost of <b>my</b> health insurance
                  through the UI, and that’s the way it was for all
                  state employees the last time I checked.  That’s been
                  the trend, too, with private sector employer-based
                  health insurance for a <b>number of years</b>, as
                  well as eroding the percentage of employer subsidy for
                  the employee.  Indeed, there are more than a few
                  employers who offer absolutely no health insurance
                  subsidy for employees – their position is that their
                  “subsidy” is allowing the employee the benefit of
                  being a part of a larger group that gets a lower rate.</span>”</p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">What

                  say you?</span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Saundra</span></p>
              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
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                  <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;">
                      Paul Rumelhart [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
                        href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>]
                      <br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:07 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Saundra Lund; <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] A fine point,
                      perhaps.</span></p>
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              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p>
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                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><br>
                  Well, I was hoping we could discuss this without the
                  personal insults. <br>
                  <br>
                  Paul<br>
                  <br>
                  On 07/01/2014 12:21 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:</p>
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                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Paul

                    wrote:</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">“</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">It's

                    subsidized by everyone who pays into it, plus what
                    the employer pays.”</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Boy,

                    you sure are out of touch with how modern
                    employer-based health insurance is paid!  Keep
                    current, Paul, rather than disseminate long outdated
                    sound bites.  </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">The

                    last time I checked, <b>my husband and I </b>paid
                    100% of the cost of <b>my</b> health insurance
                    through the UI, and that’s the way it was for all
                    state employees the last time I checked.  That’s
                    been the trend, too, with private sector
                    employer-based health insurance for a <b>number of
                      years</b>, as well as eroding the percentage of
                    employer subsidy for the employee.  Indeed, there
                    are more than a few employers who offer absolutely
                    no health insurance subsidy for employees – their
                    position is that their “subsidy” is allowing the
                    employee the benefit of being a part of a larger
                    group that gets a lower rate.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Paul

                    also wrote:</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">“</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">I
                    don't see a problem with a small group of
                    "close-knit" people with similar beliefs objecting
                    to something they feel goes against their religious
                    beliefs.”</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Of

                    course you don’t, but it’s good to know you belong
                    in the “tyranny of the bigots” category that thinks
                    that anyone should be able to impose their religious
                    beliefs on those with different beliefs, which
                    certainly contradicts a lot of the positions you’ve
                    stated on V2020.  I’m in the category of thinking
                    that people are free to believe whatever they want,
                    but they don’t have the right to force their
                    religious beliefs on me.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Too,

                    why on earth should you care that about 90% of
                    companies in America responsible for employing
                    approximately 52% of working Americans qualify as
                    “small closely-held” companies that can now use
                    wholly false religious bigotry to deny access to
                    necessary health care for female employees and
                    employees with female family members?  That may be
                    the America you want to live in, but it isn’t the
                    one the majority of Americans want to live in.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Paul

                    also wrote:</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">“</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Especially

                    when the consequence is to pay for a specific
                    contraceptive yourself.”</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Once

                    again, your gender ignorance and economic
                    insensitivity would be stunning had you not
                    exhibited them so many times before.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Yes,

                    the American way is to force female crime victims to
                    bear the cost of being raped by men, isn’t it, Paul,
                    and that religious American ideal should be
                    preserved at all costs, shouldn’t it?  It’s also the
                    American way relegate “immoral” women to forced
                    breeder status when they have sex, isn’t it?</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">And,

                    of course it’s of no consequence to <b>you</b> that
                    the cost of an IUD for women for whom that form of
                    birth control is most appropriate is about a month’s
                    wage for lower paid employees without health
                    insurance . . . or for plans that exclude coverage
                    for women.  That may be economically feasible for <b>you</b>
                    since <b>you</b> don’t fall into that category, but
                    here’s a news flash for you:  that is as financially
                    impossible for many women, particularly women who
                    have children to feed & clothe.  Yet you find it
                    appropriate for religious bigots to punish women
                    & children in an attempt to coerce “moral”
                    behavior out of those uppity women.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Of

                    course, a viable alternative <b>might have been</b>
                    to direct those women to non-profit family planning
                    clinics like Planned Parenthood where contraceptives
                    are more affordable.  At least, that <b>might</b>
                    have been a viable alternative before the Religious
                    Right started its war on women.  Oops – guess that’s
                    not a viable alternative for a lot of women anymore.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Saundra</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Moscow,

                    ID</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Our

                    lives begin to end the day we become silent about
                    things that matter.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">~
                    Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.</span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                <div>
                  <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                    1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
                        [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 01, 2014 9:05 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Sunil; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] A fine point,
                        perhaps.</span></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Yes,

                        you're right.  It's not free.  It's subsidized
                        by everyone who pays into it, plus what the
                        employer pays.  I don't see a problem with a
                        small group of "close-knit" people with similar
                        beliefs objecting to something they feel goes
                        against their religious beliefs.  Especially
                        when the consequence is to pay for a specific
                        contraceptive yourself.  It's not like they are
                        objecting to open-heart surgery.</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Is

                        having the ability to get health care in general
                        from your employer a basic human right?  Is the
                        ability to have your contraceptives in general
                        or the "morning after" pill in specific as a
                        part of your health plan offered at work a basic
                        human right?</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Paul</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div class="ecxMsoNormal"
                          style="text-align:center;background:white;"
                          align="center"><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">
                            <hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></span></div>
                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                          style="background:white;"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";">
                            Sunil <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br>
                            <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
                            <br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:22 AM<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] A fine
                            point, perhaps.</span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                          style="background:white;"><span
                            style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
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                            <div>
                              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                style="background:white;"><span
                                  style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Paul,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Is your UI healthcare free or is it
                                  part of your employment compensation?<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Sunil</span></p>
                              <div class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                style="text-align:center;background:white;"
                                align="center"><span
                                  style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">
                                  <hr align="center" size="2"
                                    width="100%"></span></div>
                              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                style="background:white;"><span
                                  style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Date:

                                  Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:03:00 -0700<br>
                                  From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
                                  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A fine
                                  point, perhaps.<br>
                                  To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>;
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></span></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                  style="background:white;"><span
                                    style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
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                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                      style="background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Which

                                        right is being restricted, a
                                        woman's right to free
                                        contraceptives?</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Paul</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                      style="background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                          style="text-align:center;background:white;"
                                          align="center"><span
                                            style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">
                                            <hr align="center" size="1"
                                              width="100%"></span></div>
                                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white;"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";">
                                            Sunil <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br>
                                            <b>To:</b> vision 2020 <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>

                                            <br>
                                            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July
                                            1, 2014 6:07 AM<br>
                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                            [Vision2020] A fine point,
                                            perhaps.</span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                          style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
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                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                                style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">I
                                                  couldn't disagree
                                                  more. <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Roe recognized a
                                                  woman's right to
                                                  privacy. Hobby Lobby
                                                  creates religious
                                                  rights for legal
                                                  fictions, and
                                                  restricts the rights
                                                  of flesh-and-blood
                                                  people. HL is not
                                                  about restricting the
                                                  power of government
                                                  and it's naive to
                                                  think that's its
                                                  objective. If the
                                                  government were
                                                  restricting birth
                                                  control, as it once
                                                  did, this majority
                                                  would have no
                                                  objection to that
                                                  exercise of government
                                                  power.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Sunil</span></p>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="ecxMsoNormal"
                                                  style="text-align:center;background:white;"
                                                  align="center"><span
                                                    style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">
                                                    <hr align="center"
                                                      size="2"
                                                      width="100%"></span></div>
                                                <p class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                    style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">From:
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br>
                                                    To: <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>; <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>;
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                                                    Date: Tue, 1 Jul
                                                    2014 01:20:24 -0600<br>
                                                    Subject: Re:
                                                    [Vision2020] A fine
                                                    point, perhaps.</span></p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p
                                                    class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                      style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div
                                                  id="ecxyiv2627067231ecxyiv6613980888yqt76022">
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p
                                                      class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                        style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Comparing

                                                        Burwell v Hobby
                                                        to Roe v Wade I
                                                        don't see
                                                        inconsistency in
                                                        rulings.  In
                                                        both cases the
                                                        rulings
                                                        restricted the
                                                        power of the
                                                        government.</span></p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div
                                                        class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">
                                                          <hr
                                                          align="center"
                                                          size="2"
                                                          width="100%"></span></div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">From:
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a><br>
                                                          To: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>;
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                                                          Date: Mon, 30
                                                          Jun 2014
                                                          17:14:44 -0700<br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [Vision2020] A
                                                          fine point,
                                                          perhaps.</span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Great

                                                          points, Rose,
                                                          and I’m afraid
                                                          I agree with
                                                          your
                                                          assessment. 
                                                          Thank you for
                                                          pointing out
                                                          the obvious
                                                          even if it’s
                                                          uncomfortable
                                                          some.</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">It’s

                                                          long past time
                                                          for SCOTUS to
                                                          have to adhere
                                                          to the same
                                                          code of ethics
                                                          federal judges
                                                          must adhere
                                                          to.</span></p>
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                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Saundra</span></p>
                                                        </div>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p>
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                                                        <div>
                                                          <div
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><b><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
                                                          [<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Rosemary

                                                          Huskey<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Monday, June
                                                          30, 2014 2:49
                                                          PM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          [Vision2020] A
                                                          fine point,
                                                          perhaps.</span></p>
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                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">Bias,

                                                          or perhaps I
                                                          should say, a
                                                          predisposition,

                                                          to adopt a
                                                          certain
                                                          philosophical
                                                          approach to
                                                          legal issues
                                                          may be shaped
                                                          by private
                                                          values that we
                                                          trust and hold
                                                          dear.  In
                                                          light of the
                                                           Supreme Court
                                                          decision
                                                          supporting the
                                                          Hobby Lobby
                                                          owners refusal
                                                          to provide
                                                          forms of birth
                                                          control they
                                                          claim to be at
                                                          odds with
                                                          their
                                                          religious
                                                          beliefs,  I
                                                          wondered if
                                                          the court was
                                                          persuaded not
                                                          by legal
                                                          arguments but
                                                          by their own
                                                          religious
                                                          affiliations. 
                                                          Were any of
                                                          the five male
                                                          justices
                                                          associated
                                                          with religious
                                                          groups that
                                                           uphold the
                                                          doctrine of
                                                          patriarchy,
                                                           i.e., do they
                                                          attend
                                                          churches that
                                                          deny women
                                                          ministerial or
                                                          priesthood
                                                          roles. Guess
                                                          what?  Justice
                                                          Roberts,
                                                          Justice
                                                          Scalia,
                                                          Justice
                                                          Thomas, and
                                                          Justice Alito
                                                          are Roman
                                                          Catholic. </span></p>
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                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="ecxMsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";">In

                                                          contrast, when
                                                          the decision
                                                          concerning Roe
                                                          v Wade was
                                                          announced in
                                                          1973 eight of
                                                          the nine male
                                                          justices were
                                                          members of
                                                          main stream
                                                          Protestant
                                                          churches.
                                                          There may or
                                                          may not be a
                                                          direct
                                                          correlation
                                                          between
                                                          religion
                                                          affiliation
                                                          and legal
                                                          opinions, but
                                                          it is my firm
                                                          belief that
                                                          unearned
                                                          gender
                                                          privilege
                                                          nurtured in
                                                          the cradle,
                                                          and deferred
                                                          to in the
                                                          church
                                                          certainly
                                                          creates an
                                                          atmosphere
                                                          that
                                                          celebrates and
                                                          bestows unique
                                                          privilege for
                                                          male members. 
                                                          And, what
                                                          could possibly
                                                          more be
                                                          patriarchal
                                                          than
                                                          controlling
                                                          women’s
                                                          reproductive
                                                          choices?</span></p>
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