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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I'll combine responses.<br><br>Sunil writes:<br><So Scott, you're saying we can't express opinions about the Court's rulings?><br><br>You can express opinions, they just won't trump the Court's majority opinion.<br><br>Tom write:<br><It's not like women are REAL people . . . like corporations, right?><br><br>Women are real people. Corporations are comprised of real people. Therein lies the problem. That's why we have a Supreme Court deciding Constitutionality of restrictions and enforcements. The Supreme Court is also comprised of people. Therein also lies another problem specifically when they deliver an opinion that you disagree with. FWIW, I don't concur with the majority opinion on this case.<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News<br>From: thansen@moscow.com<br>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:47:01 -0700<br>CC: godshatter@yahoo.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com<br><br><div>You may be on to something, Mr. Dredge . . . </div><div><br>It's not like women are REAL people . . . like corporations, right?</div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div></div><div><br>On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>
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<div dir="ltr">If the Supreme Court says it's OK for the Christian Scientists to not provide any health insurance, then it's case closed. No Jeesh necessary.<br><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:48:37 -0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News<br><br><div>So . . .</div><div><br></div><div>If a Christian Science family that runs a business decides not to provide ANY health insurance to their employees, Mr. Rumelhart is ok with those employees paying for health care out of their own pockets "on a cash-only basis".</div><div><br></div><div>JEEEEEEEEESH !</div><div><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div></div><div><br>On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div style=""><span style="">"</span>Suppose the family is staunch believers in a religion that simply does not believe in health care in ANY form. What then?"</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">I have no problem with someone opting out of the system. If they want to eschew all insurance benefits and pay for medical services on a cash-only basis, why should I care?</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Paul<br></div><div style=""><br style=""></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="" dir="ltr"> <hr style="" size="1"> <font style="" face="Arial" size="2"> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br style=""> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br style=""><b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br style=""> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> <br style=""> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News<br style=""> </font> </div> <div style=""><br style=""><div style="" id="ecxyiv8485779086"><div style=""><div style="">For now (June 30, 2014)' that's how it stands.</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="">HOWEVER, . . .</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="">There are several
other cases "waiting in the wings" concerning coverage for various medications, treatments, operations, etc. etc. etc.</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="">Give it six months (if that long) and let's see.</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="">Jus' a thought, but . . .</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="">Suppose the family is staunch believers in a religion that simply does not believe in health care in ANY form. What then?<br style="" clear="none"><br style="" clear="none"><div style=""><span style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants
on)</span></div><div style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style=""><font style="" color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div style=""><span style=""> </span></div><div style=""><div style=""><span style="">Tom Hansen</span></div><div style=""><span style="">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div style=""><span style="">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div style=""><span style="">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">- John Lennon</span></div><div style=""><span style=""> </span></div></div><div style="" id="ecxyiv8485779086yqt64224"><div style=""><br style="" clear="none">On Jun 30, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a style="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br style="" clear="none"><br style="" clear="none"></div><blockquote style=""><div style=""><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div style=""><span style="">"</span>If a company does not care to provide *free contraceptives* to its employees,
all it needs to do is . . . shuffle corporate paperwork around, making
the company appear as family-owned . . . and claim a strongly religious
foundation."</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Fixed that for you. <br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Paul</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" style=""> <hr style="" size="1"> <font style="" face="Arial" size="2"> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a style="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br style="" clear="none"> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b>
Moscow Vision 2020 <<a style="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br style="" clear="none"> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 30, 2014 7:56 AM<br style="" clear="none"> <b style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Vision2020] Fwd: CNN Breaking News<br style="" clear="none"> </font> </div> <div style=""><br style="" clear="none"><div id="ecxyiv8485779086" style=""><div style=""><div style=""><span style=""></span></div><div style=""><div style=""><span style=""></span></div><div style=""><div style="">The flood gates have opened, courtesy of a 5-4 SCOTUS vote.</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style=""><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="" target="_blank" href="http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/30/politics/scotus-obamacare-contraception/index.html?hpt=hp_t1">http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/30/politics/scotus-obamacare-contraception/index.html?hpt=hp_t1</a></span></div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style=""><span style="">-------------------------</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">"The political stakes are large, especially for the future effectiveness of the health law, which marks its fourth anniversary this year.</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">The botched rollout last fall of <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="" target="_blank" href="http://healthcare.gov/">HealthCare.gov</a>, the federal Obamacare website, has become another political flashpoint along with other issues that many Republicans say proves the law is unworkable.</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">They have made Obamacare a key campaign issue in their fight to overtake the Senate,
and retain control of the House.</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">Supporters of the law fear a high court setback on the contraception mandate will lead to other healthcare challenges on religion grounds, such as do-not-resuscitate orders and vaccine coverage. More broadly, many worry giving corporations religious freedom rights could affect laws on employment, safety, and civil rights."</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style="">-------------------------</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="">If a company does not care to provide health insurance to its employees, all it needs to do is . . . shuffle corporate paperwork around, making the company appear as family-owned . . . and claim a strongly
religious foundation.</div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none"></div><div style="">Being retired Army, all I can say is . . . Thank God for Tri-Care!<br style="" clear="none"><br style="" clear="none"><div style=""><span style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style=""><font style="" color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div style=""><span style=""> </span></div><div style=""><div style=""><span style="">Tom Hansen</span></div><div style=""><span style="">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div style=""><span style="">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div style=""><span style="">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br style="" clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">- John Lennon</span></div><div style=""><span style=""> </span></div></div><div style=""><br style="" clear="none">Begin forwarded message:<br style="" clear="none"><br style="" clear="none"></div><blockquote style=""><div style=""><b style="">From:</b> CNN Breaking News<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="" target="_blank" href="mailto:BreakingNews@mail.cnn.com">BreakingNews@mail.cnn.com</a>><br style="" clear="none"><b style="">Date:</b> June 30, 2014 at 7:29:44 AM PDT<br style="" clear="none"><b style="">To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="" target="_blank" href="mailto:textbreakingnews@ema3lsv06.turner.com">textbreakingnews@ema3lsv06.turner.com</a><br style="" clear="none"><b style="">Subject:</b> <b style="">CNN Breaking News</b><br style="" clear="none"><br style="" clear="none"></div></blockquote><blockquote style=""><div style="">
<div style="">The Supreme Court today sided with Christian-owned companies that don't want to pay for some types of contraceptives for their employees.<br style="" clear="none">
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The owners of Hobby Lobby, furniture maker Conestoga Wood Specialties and Christian bookseller Mardel argued that the Affordable Care Act violates the First Amendment and other federal laws protecting religious freedom because it requires them to provide coverage for contraceptives like the "morning-after pill," which the companies consider tantamount to abortion.<br style="" clear="none">
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The decision may serve as a primer for other pending challenges to the health law championed by President Barack Obama.<br style="" clear="none">
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