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I had no doubt that the Chief of Police would be against this, it
complicates his job. That is not the sole concern here however,
there is that Constitution thing to think about.<br>
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His point about accidental discharges is a good one. I think his
worries about not knowing which shooter to take out are
overblown. Given two people with guns, it's the guy actively
shooting at the police that is the spree shooter (not the guy with
his hands up laying down his weapon). His other points can be
summed up with "drunk students shooting each other OK Corral
style", which I don't think will come to pass. I have more
respect for those who have gone through the trouble of getting a
concealed carry permit than he does, apparently.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 06/20/2014 12:57 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya
'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow
Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom
Hansen</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow,
Idaho</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's
room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But
first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If
you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">-
John Lennon</span></div>
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On Jun 20, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a
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guessing that even on July 1st, when you would
expect the people who want to make sure to
exercise their new-found rights will most likely
do so, you will be hard-pressed to even notice a
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does sound like the authors of the law should
have been more careful about loopholes, but I
sincerely doubt that anyone will be carrying
openly at the next 1000+ student event. If they
are, they will still not be the ones to be
worried about. It's the person carrying
concealed illegally that is about to start some
shit that is the person you need to be concerned
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attorney has responded with a
reassuring and cogent response. (See
attached.) I cannot reproduce Don's
full response without his permission,
but his views are accurately contained
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