<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>All I see here is an irrational fear of guns.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Let's assume that we can divide the world up into two different types of people, those who are about to embark
upon a murder-spree that will end with their own suicide (MS) and those who are just normal people (NP). Let's further assume that we can also divide the same set of people into those who have a concealed carry permit (CC) and those who don't (NC). You have four combinations:</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>NP | NC - normal people without an enhanced concealed carry permit (we'll lump the retired police officers in the CC pool)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida
Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>NP | CC - normal people with an enhanced concealed carry permit or a retired police officer</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>MS | NC - someone about to go on a rampage who does not have a permit and</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>MS | CC - someone about to go on a rampage who does have such a permit</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">For all intents and purposes, you can consider the last two groups in the same way. It's unlikely that someone about to kill total strangers will abide by the University's weapons policy. So now you have someone on a murder-spree who has victims to choose from in both the NP | NC and NP | CC groups. Before, only the NP | NC group existed. The only thing this law changes is the addition of the NP | CC group. They now have the ability to put up a defense against the MS groups. That's a win as I see it.<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I don't buy the implied logic that a normal person will immediately turn into a spree shooter because they have now qualified for an enhanced concealed carry permit.<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Paul<br><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Saundra Lund <v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Moscow Vision 2020' <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 23, 2014 11:40 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] After losing in Legislature, Idaho college campuses adapting policies to new gun law<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv0642521410"><style>#yiv0642521410 #yiv0642521410 --
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#yiv0642521410 </style><div><div class="yiv0642521410WordSection1"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Ahh, but the militarization of campus through arming everyone else who wants to be armed is just peachy fine with you?</span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Ridiculous.</span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">And, as for your faith in “retired” cops and anyone else taking a silly class, seriously?!?! Do you actually keep your head buried in the sand all the time or just when it comes to national news stories about shootings by “retired” cops, military, and others who’ve taken classes??</span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Ridiculous.</span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Saundra</span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv0642521410yqt0154182239" id="yiv0642521410yqt19910"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br
clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2014 8:46 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Tom Hansen<br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Moscow Vision 2020<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] After losing in Legislature, Idaho college campuses adapting policies to new gun law</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Um... no? </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">I thought I was suggesting that the militarization of campus security was not the correct direction to take on this issue.</span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Paul</span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style=""></span><hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow"
shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2014 8:38 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] After losing in Legislature, Idaho college campuses adapting policies to new gun law</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div id="yiv0642521410"><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="">Are you suggesting, Mr. Rumelhart, that, as the new law goes into affect, it should be considered acceptable behavior for somebody who expresses a desire to commit suicide to bring a handgun on campus, conceivably to kill others before taking his/her own life?</span></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Seeya
'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">"Moscow Cares" </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/"><span style="color:black;">http://www.MoscowCares.com</span></a></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Tom Hansen</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">
</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">- John Lennon</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div></div><div id="yiv0642521410yqt28292"><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=""><br
clear="none">On May 23, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">I believe that's the point I was trying to make. It can happen now. Regardless, is the correct response really to militarize campus security? That seems like an awfully statist approach to me.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;">Paul</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style=""></span><hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2014 7:42 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] After losing in Legislature, Idaho college campuses adapting policies to new gun law</span><span style=""></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div><div id="yiv0642521410"><div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">In my opinion, NIC is not "freaking out", since an individual, who was "talking about dying and not being afraid to die", was recently arrested on campus with a gun.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="http://www.khq.com/story/24685956/man-with-gun-arrested-on-north-idaho-college-campus">http://www.khq.com/story/24685956/man-with-gun-arrested-on-north-idaho-college-campus</a></span></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/"><span style="color:black;">http://www.MoscowCares.com</span></a></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style=""> </span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Tom Hansen</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">- John Lennon</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style=""><br clear="none">On May 23, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""><br clear="none">In my personal opinion, the University of Idaho appears to be taking a rational approach to this while NIC appears to be freaking out about it. Bullet proof vests? Really? Arming their security personnel? If a few
retired police officers and enhanced concealed carry permit holders frighten them so much I almost hate to bring up the thought that criminals don't necessarily follow the gun laws on campuses and that there might be people with guns on campus RIGHT NOW! Let's hope that the NIC leadership doesn't read this. Tanks are expensive.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Paul<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 05/23/2014 04:24 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Courtesy of today's (May 23, 2014) Spokesman-Review.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">-----------------------------------</span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><h1 style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;background:white;overflow:visible;"><span style="font-size:21.0pt;">After losing in Legislature, Idaho college campuses adapting policies to new gun law</span></h1><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Public colleges and universities in Idaho are getting ready to comply with a new state law they strongly opposed: allowing concealed weapons to be carried on campus.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">The law takes effect July 1 and applies to people with an enhanced license to carry concealed weapons, along with retired law enforcement officers. College leaders universally
opposed the law, but pro-gun rights lawmakers pushed it through the Legislature this year.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Now college administrators and campus security departments are preparing for the new reality: guns in lecture halls, labs, offices, cafeterias – everywhere but dormitories and entertainment venues with seating for more than 1,000, like stadiums and auditoriums.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“We intend to follow the law. Really we don’t discuss the merits of the law. That was done, the law passed. We’re talking about implementation,” said Matt Dorschel, executive director of public safety and security at the University of Idaho in Moscow.</span></div></div><div
style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Higher education leaders are revising campus weapons policies to comply with the new law, although bans on openly carrying guns are expected to remain in effect.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Some colleges also plan to beef up their security. North Idaho College in Coeur d’Alene will provide its security officers with bulletproof vests plus training related to concealed weapon laws, and it may expand its seven-person security force by one full-time and one part-time position.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">NIC also is mulling whether to arm its security workers for the first time, said
Alex Harris, director of student development.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“I don’t know if we’ll go that direction, but it’s definitely out there and we’re considering it,” Harris said.</span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Another option, he said, is to work with the Coeur d’Alene Police Department to station a school resource officer on campus, similar to the officers present in middle and high schools.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">All of these measures are unforeseen expenses at a time of budget cuts due to falling enrollment, Harris said. NIC’s enrollment this year
dropped 11 percent from the previous school year – a trend that corresponds to the improving economy.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">The vests will cost about $8,000, and arming and training security officers would cost $10,000 a year. The new security officers, or a school resource officer, would cost about $60,000 a year.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“The budget process this year, without this, has been difficult for the campus as a whole,” Harris said. “It does make for some tough decisions.”</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">The 12,000-student University of Idaho anticipates no
significant changes for its security force. The Moscow Police Department can respond quickly to emergencies on campus, and a university task force implementing the new law is not likely to recommend arming campus security, Dorschel said.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“We don’t think that anything about the law would impact our need to have other armed responders on campus,” he said.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">NIC’s College Senate, which includes faculty, staff and students, approved new language for the school’s weapons policy last week. The president’s Cabinet is expected to take the changes to the board of trustees Wednesday, and the board will vote on the changes by the end
of June.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“The policy is the easy part because basically we just have to make sure we are abiding by the new state law,” Harris said.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">The law allows colleges to continue to prohibit guns in dormitories and public entertainment venues with a seating capacity of at least 1,000. At NIC, that covers three buildings: the student residence hall, Christianson Gymnasium and the Schuler Performing Arts Center in Boswell Hall.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">It’s not clear yet if the new law also extends to college facilities off campus.
For NIC, that includes its Workforce Training Center in Post Falls and satellite centers in Sandpoint, Bonners Ferry and Kellogg. NIC is awaiting a legal opinion on that.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">The UI task force is focused on updating the university policy on weapons, such as identifying which buildings would remain off-limits to guns, Dorschel said. That includes residence halls for about 2,000 students, Memorial Gymnasium, the Kibbie Dome and a ballroom in the student union building.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">The task force also is looking at whether to provide more places for licensed weapons holders to store their guns at times they cannot carry them. And the group is exploring whether employees
may ask someone if they are carrying a concealed weapon.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“We will make it clear that permit holders are not required to disclose their status as a concealed carry permit holder to another employee,” Dorschel said.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Both colleges will distribute answers to common questions about the new law, such as whether one should alert authorities if they see a gun.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“In general, we don’t want people to hesitate or to assume,” Harris said. “We’re responsible for the safety of our students and our
employees, and if that requires us having an uncomfortable conversation with someone who has a permit, then we’ll do it.”</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">The responsibilities of license holders to keep their weapons concealed, and whether the law extends to off-campus activities, are other points colleges will attempt to address.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“We want to make sure we don’t ignore questions that we get from our community about how this works in practice,” Dorschel said.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">People have mixed feelings about guns on campus, Harris said. Some
believe the law will enhance safety because those who are permitted to carry guns may be able to respond to a threat, while others worry that more armed responders will only complicate the job of police and security officers.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">Also, some employees have told the college they may be more inclined to request a security officer attend difficult conversations, such as terminating an employee or talking with a student who is failing a class, he said.</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:15.75pt;overflow:visible;"><div class="yiv0642521410MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="">“I think it’s a matter of taking the temperature once this goes into effect and we start the fall semester to see what things we need to address and how,” Harris said.</span></div></div><div
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