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As others have pointed out, it's not a First Amendment issue, but
it is a privacy issue. And an issue of simple freedom of
expression. Shouldn't you be able to vent to your girlfriend
privately without losing 5mil and being banned from all NBA games
for life? I'm curious if she made this recording herself, or if
someone else recorded them, and where it was done. If it was
recorded in California, then it was done illegally, since
California is a "two-party consent" law for recordings. All sides
need to be aware that someone is recording the conversation, even
in private. I'm assuming that Sterling had no idea he was being
recorded.<br>
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The main thing that annoyed me about this whole thing was the
"witch hunt" aspect of it. Everyone jumping aboard the bandwagon
and denouncing this guy. The NBA delivering their harshest
punishment because to do otherwise would be to fear the wrath of
the crowd. They are talking about trying to do something about
his being a team owner, and nobody seems to care that someone's
property might be taken away from them because they expressed
their views to an intimate partner IN PRIVATE.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 04/29/2014 03:19 PM, Sue Hovey wrote:<br>
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<div>Frankly, I think he’s a “dirty old man” with a great
looking young woman friend, and his prejudices and bigotry
extend far beyond what he has just said. Even so, it would
seem to me he has a First Amendment right to say what he
thinks. Not knowing what the bylaws of the NBA say to this
issue, I do wonder how they can ban him from games when he
owns the team, and I imagine the courts will be asked to
resolve that issue. If the KKK has a First Amendment right
to march down the streets of American cities (and I don’t
argue they do) then maybe Magic Johnson should just have to
“suck it up.” I believe the First Amendment is
precious...and yes, there are consequences for speech that
harms, but we have to be very wary of consequences for
something that is purely speech and not overt behavior,
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<div>Perhaps the NBA could look into the Cliven Bundy case and
remove him from his ranch just as Sterling has been removed
from the Arena. Well maybe their bylaws don’t extend that
far. Damn. </div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:14 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Political
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<div><span>It wasn't just "black people" dude, it was
Magic Johnson!</span></div>
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<div>Ron Force <br>
Moscow Idaho USA</div>
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Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:59 PM, Gary Crabtree
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<div>The guy should be thanking his lucky
stars that he wasn't illegally taped
stating that he believed that marriage
should be between a man and a women
exclusively. They would be calling for a
total confiscation of all his worldly
goods and a summary execution.</div>
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solid">Donald Sterling has now been
banned for life from games and practices
by the NBA and fined $2.5 million
dollars. Why? Because he was recorded
saying bad things about black people in
a PRIVATE conversation he was having
with his girlfriend. One that was very
likely recorded illegally. Does this
strike anyone here as being
over-the-top? Or am I the only one not
on the "OMG! He said bad things about
black people!" bandwagon?<br>
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I hate that we have become a nation of
nattering ninnies.<br>
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Paul<br>
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