<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>And if the U.S. Congress terminates a person's food stamps and refuses to extend their unemployment?<br><br><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div></div><div><br>On Apr 19, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Kai Eiselein <<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>If someone is getting unemployment and/or food stamps, I'd say that's a pretty good indication of necessity and would pretty easy to verify.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>________________________________</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:01:50 -0700 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] North Idaho Poachers Taking Heavy Toll On Game </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Then . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>What about the indigent person who poaches elk/deer for the cash value </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the racks . . . using the "revenue" to purchase food? </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And, if the law is modified such that indigant people can't even be </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>charged with the crime of poaching, what is to stop the more </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>financially-secure poacher from copping the "I am indigent and only </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sell the elk/deer racks to put food on my family's dinner table" plea? </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If the financial stability of the perp is the determing factor in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whether or not the above cop-out plea may be applied, at what amount of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>financial worth is the line drawn? </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/>">http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/></a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom Hansen </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Moscow, Idaho </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill." </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- John Lennon </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Apr 19, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Sunil </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kai, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I say 'yes,' the person feeding his family should be treated </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>differently, and it should start with the law itself. It should provide </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for different treatments, or perhaps create a necessity exception that </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>would excuse the first person in your example. Since judges will vary </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>widely on the punishment end, to argue mercy should be provided there </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is to live in Dreamland. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Juries generally don't assess punishments, except for the death </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>penalty. Their verdicts may create sentencing ranges, depending on the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>charges, or they can acquit. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom says, 'Where the "trophy poacher" may be sentenced to some jail </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>time and a heavy fine, the indigent person may be sentenced to a short </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>term of probation.' </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think the positions are more likely to be reversed in the real world. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sunil </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________ </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:19:49 -0700 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] North Idaho Poachers Taking Heavy Toll On Game </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kai Eiselein suggests: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Let's say a person is unemployed and needs to feed his/family poaches </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a deer or an elk for food, should that person be treated the same as a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>trophy or money poacher who only takes the rack, hide or parts that </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have cash value?" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As much as I hate to say this, Mr. Eiselein . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes. A law is only as strong as the people who enforce it. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In both cases, "trophy poachers" (who take the elk/deer racks for their </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cash value) and indigent people (who are striving to put food on the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>dinner table), are guilty of the crime of poaching. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The individual reason for poaching may be presented during the judicial </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>process. At which time the judge or jury may impose punishment </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>commensurate with the motivation behind committing the crime. In </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>military courts-martial, that portion of the judicial pricess is </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>referred to as "presentation of matters in extenuation and mitigation". </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Where the "trophy poacher" may be sentenced to some jail time and a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>heavy fine, the indigent person may be sentenced to a short term of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>probation. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/>">http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/></a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom Hansen </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Moscow, Idaho </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill." </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- John Lennon </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Kai Eiselein </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Let's say a person is unemployed and needs to feed his/family poaches a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>deer or an elk for food, should that person be treated the same as a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>trophy or money poacher who only takes the rack, hide or parts that </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have cash value? </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>======================================================= List services </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Palouse since 1994. <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>======================================================= </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>======================================================= </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>List services made available by First Step Internet, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>======================================================= </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>======================================================= List services </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Palouse since 1994. <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>======================================================= </span><br></blockquote><span> </span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>