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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>If we hear about a mentally unstable student brandishing a firearm against a profession who gave him a failing grade, my bet is this criminal will not have a conceal carry permit in which case this bill is moot. My comment about this being a monumental waste of time was because I think it was 1) an unnecessary bill to put forth, and 2) not worth any effort to oppose it considering it was guaranteed to be passed and signed.<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:24:55 -0700<br>From: rhayes@frontier.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gov signs guns on campus -Choices?<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;">I doubt it would be a monumental waste of time if you were the professor and looked out at your students (some of whom will flunk your class) an wonder which one had a gun under his/her jacket.<br>I would hope this is the last you will hear about it, but I think not. <br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> W. Price <bear@moscow.com>;
"rhayes@frontier.com" <rhayes@frontier.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> viz <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:18 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Vision2020] Gov signs guns on campus -Choices?<br> </font> </div> <div class="ecxy_msg_container"><br><div id="ecxyiv1734885034"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div dir="ltr">I don't recall Otter having objections to the bill, so what would motivate him to veto it? This has all been a monumental waste of time. Hopefully this is the last we'll hear of it.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><hr id="ecxyiv1734885034stopSpelling">From: bear@moscow.com<br clear="none">Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:35:06 -0700<br clear="none">To: rhayes@frontier.com<br clear="none">CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gov signs guns on campus -Choices?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The governor had 3 choices, sign the bill, not sign the bill and it becomes law in 5 days, or veto it.<div>BUT two thirds of both houses can over ride that veto. Here we have legislation, that IF it was vetoed, it already had the necessary votes </div><div>to over ride the governor's veto, so the veto would have just been a "gesture", one that the majority of Idaho
citizens are not in favor of.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I don't see where signing a bill that the majority of the legislature has passed and that a majority of the people of Idaho want is cowardly.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:43 AM, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="ecxyiv1734885034ecxApple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><blockquote><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div class="ecxyiv1734885034ecxy_msg_container"><br clear="none">I do not intend to excuse Otter for signing the bill, but he probably felt he had no choice. He is facing competition from an even more radical right wing opponent in the upcoming primary. Had he vetoed this bill, it would have given fodder to the extremists which might cause disillusion among the rank and file republicans. <br clear="none">However, as I argued in a letter to the governor, his veto would signify that he was his own man, capable of bucking out-of-state pressure groups, and that a veto of
this very contentious, and more
than likely dangerous bill, would have won him lots of ground among more main steam and moderate citizens...maybe even college administrators, workers, students, parents of students, police, and state workers.<br clear="none">But of course, he signed it. Why? Because he is a coward who is not willing to step up and be a "real man." <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Idaho governor signs campus gun bill into law<br clear="none">BY KATIE TERHUNE<br clear="none">Associated PressMarch 12, 2014 <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Read more here: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/03/12/3076774/idaho-governor-signs-campus-gun.html#storylink=cpy">http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/03/12/3076774/idaho-governor-signs-campus-gun.html#storylink=cpy</a><br clear="none">BOISE, IDAHO ? Students, staff and visitors are now cleared to bring concealed guns onto Idaho's college and university campuses.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter signed the bill into law Wednesday.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It allows retired law enforcement and concealed-carry permit holders bring
guns into classrooms and anywhere else on campus ? except dormitories and stadiums.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The proposal drew heated criticism from heads of all eight of the state's public colleges and sparked a protest that drew hundreds to the Capitol.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Opponents say it will strip policy-making power from universities, stymie recruitment efforts and put those on campus at risk.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Otter wrote in a statement he backed the bill to protect Second Amendment rights.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">He says Idaho will carefully monitor the situation to alleviate public safety concerns.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The new law goes into effect July 1.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Read more here: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/03/12/3076774/idaho-governor-signs-campus-gun.html#storylink=cpy">http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/03/12/3076774/idaho-governor-signs-campus-gun.html#storylink=cpy</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div>=======================================================<br clear="none"> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br clear="none"> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br clear="none"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.fsr.net/">http://www.fsr.net</a><br clear="none"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><div class="ecxyiv1734885034yqt6838147192" id="ecxyiv1734885034yqtfd89947"><br clear="none">=======================================================</div></blockquote></div><div class="ecxyiv1734885034yqt6838147192" id="ecxyiv1734885034yqtfd63063"><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="ecxyiv1734885034yqt6838147192" id="ecxyiv1734885034yqtfd45965"><br clear="none">=======================================================
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