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I'm not saying that it should be unconditional, just that there
should be a really good reason to go against the wording of the
amendment in this way. It's the same argument about the first
amendment and yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.<br>
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I guess I'm arguing that we need to heed the Constitution more.
Amendments 1, 2, 4, and 5 seem to be under heavy fire, so to
speak, and we (in my opinion) need to start looking to the spirit
of the text and not just the letter of it.<br>
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We have "free speech zones", attempted gun bans, the
balls-to-the-wall hoovering of all of our online data, and
assassination-by-drone programs. It's got to stop somewhere, and
holding to the Constitution seems to me to be vital if we're going
to turn this around. Without the Constitution, there is no nation
anymore. Just a bunch of thugs wielding power. It may already be
too late.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 02/18/2014 08:17 PM, Sunil wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Paul,<br>
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If the Constitutional amendment specifically forbids such a
thing, that prohibition must be absolute.<br>
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You have made statements along this line before. I continue to
wonder why. <br>
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Why is the right to bear arms unconditional? Are you really
saying the state shall not restrict that right in any way? Is
this your opinion or is it factually correct?<br>
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Sunil<br>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:04:33 -0800<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com">dickow@turbonet.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Senate Bill 1254 and Idaho's
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<p dir="ltr">I would like to make a couple of points
about this bill.</p>
<p dir="ltr">First, I have no doubt that police chiefs
all across the country would love it if everyone
were unarmed and they had an effective monopoly on
the use of force. That doesn't mean that it's best
for you and I. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Second, the question shouldn't be "should
we allow guns on campus", it should be "is the
situation on campus dire enough that we should
infringe upon the right to bear arms despite their
being a Constitutional amendment specifically
forbidding such a thing"?</p>
<p dir="ltr">I haven't seen any arguments yet
convincing me of that. Just a bunch of frat boy
jokes. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Paul</p>
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<hr size="1"> <b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span>
</b> Robert Dickow <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com"><dickow@turbonet.com></a>; <br>
<b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span> </b>
'Moscow Vision 2020' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a>; <br>
<b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span> </b>
Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Senate Bill 1254 and Idaho's
city police chiefs <br>
<b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span> </b>
Tue, Feb 18, 2014 7:40:23 PM <br>
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style="color:#1F497D;">Concerning SB
1254, I think we should try the economic
argument against adoption. Just tell
your congresspersons that the State of
Idaho cannot afford the huge costs
associated with the passage of this
bill. It could cost millions to supply
all the teachers, professors, staffers
and campus visitors with the Kevlar
vests that we will demand having in
order to protect ourselves.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1F497D;">Bob Dickow,
troublemaker</span></p>
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id="ecxyqtfd24448">Boise Police Chief Mike
Masterson has sent out a guest opinion,
entitled, “Why a police leader feels
compelled to take his message directly to
the people,” urging Idaho citizens to
contact their legislators about SB 1254,
the bill to allow guns on Idaho's public
college campuses, where they're now
banned. Masterson says he and three other
police chiefs were blocked from </div>
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