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      I'm not saying that it should be unconditional, just that there
      should be a really good reason to go against the wording of the
      amendment in this way.  It's the same argument about the first
      amendment and yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.<br>
      <br>
      I guess I'm arguing that we need to heed the Constitution more. 
      Amendments 1, 2, 4, and 5 seem to be under heavy fire, so to
      speak, and we (in my opinion) need to start looking to the spirit
      of the text and not just the letter of it.<br>
      <br>
      We have "free speech zones", attempted gun bans, the
      balls-to-the-wall hoovering of all of our online data, and
      assassination-by-drone programs.  It's got to stop somewhere, and
      holding to the Constitution seems to me to be vital if we're going
      to turn this around.  Without the Constitution, there is no nation
      anymore.  Just a bunch of thugs wielding power.  It may already be
      too late.<br>
      <br>
      Paul<br>
      <br>
      On 02/18/2014 08:17 PM, Sunil wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Paul,<br>
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        If the Constitutional amendment specifically forbids such a
        thing, that prohibition must be absolute.<br>
        <br>
        You have made statements along this line before. I continue to
        wonder why. <br>
        <br>
        Why is the right to bear arms unconditional? Are you really
        saying the state shall not restrict that right in any way? Is
        this your opinion or is it factually correct?<br>
        <br>
        Sunil<br>
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          <hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:04:33 -0800<br>
          From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
          To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com">dickow@turbonet.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Senate Bill 1254 and Idaho's
          city police chiefs<br>
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                  <p dir="ltr">I would like to make a couple of points
                    about this bill.</p>
                  <p dir="ltr">First, I have no doubt that police chiefs
                    all across the country would love it if everyone
                    were unarmed and they had an effective monopoly on
                    the use of force. That doesn't mean that it's best
                    for you and I. </p>
                  <p dir="ltr">Second, the question shouldn't be "should
                    we allow guns on campus", it should be "is the
                    situation on campus dire enough that we should
                    infringe upon the right to bear arms despite their
                    being a Constitutional amendment specifically
                    forbidding such a thing"?</p>
                  <p dir="ltr">I haven't seen any arguments yet
                    convincing me of that. Just a bunch of frat boy
                    jokes. </p>
                  <p dir="ltr">Paul</p>
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                  <hr size="1"> <b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span>
                  </b> Robert Dickow <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com"><dickow@turbonet.com></a>; <br>
                  <b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span> </b>
                  'Moscow Vision 2020' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a>; <br>
                  <b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span> </b>
                  Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Senate Bill 1254 and Idaho's
                  city police chiefs <br>
                  <b> <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span> </b>
                  Tue, Feb 18, 2014 7:40:23 PM <br>
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                                style="color:#1F497D;">Concerning SB
                                1254, I think we should try the economic
                                argument against adoption. Just tell
                                your congresspersons that the State of
                                Idaho cannot afford the huge costs
                                associated with the passage of this
                                bill. It could cost millions to supply
                                all the teachers, professors, staffers
                                and campus visitors with the Kevlar
                                vests that we will demand having in
                                order to protect ourselves.</span></p>
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                                style="color:#1F497D;">  </span></p>
                            <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span
                                style="color:#1F497D;">Bob Dickow,
                                troublemaker</span></p>
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                                      ‘Why a police leader feels
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                              id="ecxyqtfd24448">Boise Police Chief Mike
                              Masterson has sent out a guest opinion,
                              entitled, “Why a police leader feels
                              compelled to take his message directly to
                              the people,” urging Idaho citizens to
                              contact their legislators about SB 1254,
                              the bill to allow guns on Idaho's public
                              college campuses, where they're now
                              banned. Masterson says he and three other
                              police chiefs were blocked from </div>
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