<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>No, Mr. Eiselein. I do not advocate tax evasion. I believe in EVERBODY paying their share.</div><div><br></div><div>Unlike our state government, I advocate assistance to our under-paid.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, how about you?<br><br><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But first you must learn to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- John Lennon</span></div></div><div><br>On Jan 9, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Kai Eiselein <<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>So you advocate tax evasion, Tom?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>________________________________</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:00:19 -0800 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As a matter of practice, I tip a minimum of 20%. I NEVER (unless there </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is no option) apply a tip to a credit card payment, as such tips are </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>easily taxable. Cash left on the table, hanging on the outside </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>doorknob (newspaper service), stuffed into an envelope into somebody's </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>mail slot, etc. etc. . . is virtually non-taxable (as there are no </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>receipts involved). </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/>">http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/></a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom Hansen </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Moscow, Idaho </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But first you must learn to smile as you kill, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill." </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- John Lennon </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Jan 9, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Kai Eiselein </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The fact that tipped employees can be paid less is nothing new, nor is </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it confined to Idaho, Tom. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My second job out of high school was as a waiter and I made something </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>like $1.25/hr plus tips. I averaged about $75 a day in tips... in 1982, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in the poorest county in Arizona. When I was promoted into a management </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>position, I actually made LESS than I did as a waiter, $1,400/mo vs </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about $1,700. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We had an older lady, nicknamed Granny, who had waited tables for most </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of her adult life, and she was upset if she didn't pull in at least </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>$150/day. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The thing I see now, is that servers "expect" good tips regardless of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whether their service merits it or not. I busted my ass to make tips, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and was usually rewarded. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I tip well for those who provide good service, a $23 tip on an $77 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ticket in NY last week, for example. On the other hand, I won't stiff a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>server, but I will leave as little as 50 cents to send a message that </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>their service sucked. I've left a lot of those here in Moscow. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You want my money? Earn it. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________ </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">ngier006@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 12:41:47 -0800 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Speaking of Idaho and minimum wage . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Courtesy of the Idaho Department of Labor at: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://labor.idaho.gov/pdf/wagehour.pdf">http://labor.idaho.gov/pdf/wagehour.pdf</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------------- </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>“MINIMUM WAGE </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unless specifically exempt, all employees subject to the provisions of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the Idaho Minimum Wage Law must be paid at least $7.25 per hour </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>effective July 24, 2009. The federal minimum wage increased to $7.25 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>per hour effective the same date. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>A “TIPPED EMPLOYEE” means any employee engaged in an occupation in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>which the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>month in tips. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To determine the wage of tipped employees, an employee’s tips combined </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the employer’s cash wage must equal the minimum hourly wage. If it </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>doesn’t, the employer must make up the difference. It is the employer’s </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>burden to demonstrate the amount of tips actually received by the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>employee. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Any portion of tips paid to an employee, which is shared with other </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>employees under a tip pooling or similar arrangement, shall not be </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>deemed, for the purpose of this section, to be tips actually received </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>by the employee; therefore, only the portion of tips actually retained </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>by the employee may be counted toward the tip credit. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The minimum tipped wage in Idaho is $3.35 per hour effective July 24, 2007. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is important to note that the Idaho Minimum Wage Law applies to all </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Idaho employers unless they meet the specific exemptions under Idaho </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Code §44-1504. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Even though businesses come under the exemptions for paying minimum </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wage by meeting the dollar volume test of the Fair Labor Standards Act, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>they are still subject to the provisions of the Idaho Minimum Wage Law. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New employees under 20 years of age may be paid $4.25 per hour during </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>their first 90 consecutive calendar days of employment with an </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>employer.” </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------------- </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Title 44, Chapter 15, Section 1504 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title44/T44CH15SECT44-1504.htm">http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title44/T44CH15SECT44-1504.htm</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yep. That’s right. Idaho has made it legal to pay “tipped employees” </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>less than minimum wage. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Now, imagine being a single-parent-waitress in Idaho. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>What can I say, but . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Esto perpetua, V-Peeps. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom Hansen </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Moscow, Idaho </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] On Behalf Of Nicholas Gier </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:58 AM </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Paul Rumelhart </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: vision2020@moscow com </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Paul, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This a cute rhetorical trick used by conservatives, but I will trump </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you: Let's raise the minimum wage to $1 million an hour. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Of course all proposals, including the one that will probably even pass </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in Idaho (I recommend that you sign the petition, Paul), call for a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>gradual increases pegged to inflation. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As we have seen from history, the free market does not (no surprise </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>here) solve all problems. The government had to intervene to make it </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>possible for workers to bargaining collectively, so that they did not </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have to blow up their workplaces in desperation. There were no </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>incentives for employers to bargain in good faith without "enabling" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>legislation. Likewise with wages. The market will keep them as low as </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>employers desire with dire consequences for workers and society as a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whole. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul, can you tell me why the economies of Australia and Brazil are </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>doing so well if increasing the minimum wage is so destructive? I </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>always like to offer empirical evidence for the theories I prefer. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nick </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Paul Rumelhart </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have no idea why Rosauers decided to build their new store in WA </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>instead of ID. I'm not privy to that kind of information. Why did </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>they? </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm not trying to shove a point down people's throats or get in a quick </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>zinger. I'm trying to have a discussion. Whenever anyone brings up </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>raising the minimum wage, I'm reminded that I'm distrustful of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>government intrusions into the free markets. It also makes me wonder </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>where they expect small businesses to get the money for the wage and </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>resulting benefit increases. It also makes me wonder what sort of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>equation they use to determine that $9.32 for example is the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>appropriate value to raise them to. I also start thinking about </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>reasons people might not be paying that higher wage before the raise </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>happens, and I don't just assume "greed" and "GOP is evil" as the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>answer. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________ </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Nicholas Gier </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">ngier006@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Moscow Cares </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">moscowcares@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: Paul Rumelhart </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Donovan Arnold </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"vision2020@moscow com" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:11 AM </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom: you forgot one thing. These people will pay more taxes. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul: you can theorize all you want. but the facts are in from </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Australia ($16/hour), Brazil (two huge increases in the minimum wage), </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and now our neighboring state. Otter just boasted about Idaho's GDP </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>growth, but it's even better in good ole lefty WA. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Recently, Rosauer's had a choice to build a new store in Newport, WA. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> They had a choice between the WA side and the ID side. Why did they </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>choose the WA side, Paul? </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yours for worker's rights and against the theft of their productivity, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nick </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Moscow Cares </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">moscowcares@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul Rumelhart inquires: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"If our government mandates an increase in wages, won't most businesses </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in this tough economy who have already mapped out just how much they </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can afford to spend on salaries (and benefits) simply lay some people </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>off?" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This certainly explains the state of Washington's (the state with the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>highest minimum wage at $9.32/hour) unemployment rate of 6.8% (rankin' </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in at 24th among the Nifty Fifty). </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And it most certainly explains why Hawkins Companies wants to build a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>mall (employing many many people) just west of the Washington/Idaho </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>state-line. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Although my degree is in Information Systems, and not related to </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>economics, let me try to explain this . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- If minimum wage is increased, the more money the people collecting </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>these wages will have. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- If people have more money, they tend to spend more money. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- If people soend more money, more products are sold. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- If more products are sold, demand for those products goes up. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- If demand for products goes up, more of those products must be </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>manufactured and stocked. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- If more products are manufactured and stocked, more people must be </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>employed to manufacture, stock, and sell these products. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Am I going too fast for you, Mr. Rumelhart? </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/>">http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/></a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom Hansen </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Moscow, Idaho </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But first you must learn to smile as you kill, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill." </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- John Lennon </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Jan 9, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Paul Rumelhart </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If our government mandates an increase in wages, won't most businesses </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in this tough economy who have already mapped out just how much they </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can afford to spend on salaries (and benefits) simply lay some people </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>off? The only other option is to raise prices, but people selling </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>widgets are already working to hit that optimal price for their product </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>based on a number of factors. Having to raise price to offset salaries </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>could upset the apple cart. Same thing if they have to scale back </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>because they can't afford to pay everyone at the new wage level. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm curious whether that 10 to 25 percent number is really what we see </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>locally. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________ </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Donovan Arnold </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">ngier006@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>>" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">ngier006@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: "vision2020@moscow com" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:49 AM </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The welfare state is bloated. It is bloated because wages are so low </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that a family of two working adults cannot pay their basic living </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>expenses. If we raised wages less people would be on goverment </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>assistance and more would be paying taxes instead. The idea that </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>raising wages only causes inflation is an outdated one. This was when </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>labor was 50 to 90 percent of a business's expenses. Today, because of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>automation and moving of jobs overseas, labor is only 10 to 25 percent </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of a business's expense. Further, the bottom 90 percent of wage earners </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>make up an even smaller percentage of a business's expenses. Therefore, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>raising wages even as much as 50 percent would only cause a 5 percent </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>increase in prices cover loses by employers. A 50 percent pay raise for </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>5 percent inflation would be a good increase in quality of life. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________ </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Nicholas Gier </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">ngier006@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com">mailto:ngier006@gmail.com</a>>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Kai Eiselein </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 7:44:59 AM </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The question to ask about American poverty is where would we be today </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>without Medicare, Medicaid, and Food Stamps? We are now at the bottom </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of most industrialized nations in general health (worst in preventable </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>deaths), poverty, child health, STDs, infant mortality, adult life </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>spans, etc., etc. Without these programs we would have dropped to into </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Third World conditions. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kai: if it is the bloated welfare state's fault, why is it that the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nordic countries (see attached) with the most generous benefits and </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>highest taxes are at the top of of all these quality of life </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>indicators? As I have been saying for years, economic facts defeat the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>GOP on every issue. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Brazil has raised its minimum wage twice in huge increments, and its </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>poverty rate has dropped dramatically and its economy keeps humming </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>along. If the U.S. federal minimum wage had kept pace with inflation, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>we would have won the war on poverty with that effort alone. Adjusted </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for inflation wages have been flat since Ronnie Reagan, while the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fruits of our labor has gone to the rich and the corporations. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The minimum wage in Australia is $16/hour and it was one of the only </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>countries that flew through the Great Recession with flying colors. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> They were government by the lefty Labor Party the whole time. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The facts support the Middle Way between Communism and Libertarianism, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nick </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Kai Eiselein </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>That's pretty much what the graph in USA Today showed this morning. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>They had an article about it in yesterday and today's edition. Saw it </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>while eating breakfast at a La Quinta the past two mornings. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If I had to venture a guess for why it has failed, it would be that too </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>much money goes to bloated bureaucracies and not enough gets to the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>actual programs. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Our government can be counted on for a few things: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lies </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Spying on citizens </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>F---king up just about everything it tries to manage. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________ </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>><<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</a>>; </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:51:55 -0700 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>War on Poverty at 50 -- despite trillions spent, poverty won </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>'Over, the last 50 years, the government spent more than $16 trillion </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to fight poverty. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yet today, 15 percent of Americans still live in poverty. That’s </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>scarcely better than the 19 percent living in poverty at the time of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Johnson’s speech. Nearly 22 percent of children live in poverty </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>today. In 1964, it was 23 percent.' </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/08/war-on-poverty-at-50-despite-trillions-spent-poverty-won/">http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/08/war-on-poverty-at-50-despite-trillions-spent-poverty-won/</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't have the time to fact check, but the story is from Fox News </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>which is the only source of news trusted by conservatives. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________ </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 04:48:26 -0800 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [Vision2020] Fifty years ago today (January 8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>poverty in America. I urge this Congress and all Americans to join with </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>me in that effort. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It will not be a short or easy struggle, no single weapon or strategy </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>will suffice, but we shall not rest until that war is won. The richest </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nation on earth can afford to win it. We cannot afford to lose it. One </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>thousand dollars invested in salvaging an unemployable youth today can </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>return $40,000 or more in his lifetime. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Poverty is a national problem, requiring improved national organization </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and support. But this attack, to be effective, must also be organized </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>at the State and the local level and must be supported and directed by </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>State and local efforts. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>For the war against poverty will not be won here in Washington. It must </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>be won in the field, in every private home, in every public office, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>from the courthouse to the White House. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The program I shall propose will emphasize this cooperative approach to </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>help that one-fifth of all American families with incomes too small to </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>even meet their basic needs. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Our chief weapons in a more pinpointed attack will be better schools, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and better health, and better homes, and better training, and better </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>job opportunities to help more Americans, especially young Americans, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>escape from squalor and misery and unemployment rolls where other </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>citizens help to carry them. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Very often a lack of jobs and money is not the cause of poverty, but </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the symptom. The cause may lie deeper in our failure to give our fellow </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>citizens a fair chance to develop their own capacities, in a lack of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>education and training, in a lack of medical care and housing, in a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>lack of decent communities in which to live and bring up their </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>children. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But whatever the cause, our joint Federal-local effort must pursue </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>poverty, pursue it wherever it exists--in city slums and small towns, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>in sharecropper shacks or in migrant worker camps, on Indian </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Reservations, among whites as well as Negroes, among the young as well </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>as the aged, in the boom towns and in the depressed areas. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Our aim is not only to relieve the symptom of poverty, but to cure it </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and, above all, to prevent it. No single piece of legislation, however, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is going to suffice. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We will launch a special effort in the chronically distressed areas of </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Appalachia. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We must expand our small but our successful area redevelopment program. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We must enact youth employment legislation to put jobless, aimless, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>hopeless youngsters to work on useful projects. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We must distribute more food to the needy through a broader food stamp </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>program. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We must create a National Service Corps to help the economically </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>handicapped of our own country as the Peace Corps now helps those </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>abroad. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We must modernize our unemployment insurance and establish a high-level </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>commission on automation. If we have the brain power to invent these </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>machines, we have the brain power to make certain that they are a boon </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and not a bane to humanity. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We must extend the coverage of our minimum wage laws to more than 2 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>million workers now lacking this basic protection of purchasing power. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We must, by including special school aid funds as part of our education </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>program, improve the quality of teaching, training, and counseling in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>our hardest hit areas." </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- President Lyndon Johnson in his State of the Union Address (January </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>8, 1964) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/640108.asp">http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/640108.asp</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>----------------------------------- </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 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