<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">So, no one should move loads that are large on our roadways, ever? If a person has a 467-foot long, 800-ton widget and they need to transport it from location A to location B, and locations A and B don't happen to be large port cities on accessible bodies of water, then what other choice do they have? Dirigibles?<br><br>I'm just trying to figure out what has got you so worked up about this shipment. Is it the traffic delays? Possible damage to our roadways? Are you worried their engineers have miscalculated the strength of the bridge or the amount of room needed to make that corner?<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:43 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4514887085"><div><div><span></span></div><div></div></div><div><div>FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, MR. RUMELHART!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>MY ARGUMENT DOES NOT CONCERN THE PROCESS REQUIRED IN OBTAINING A PERMIT.</div><div><br
clear="none"></div><div>Here is another hint.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Picture, if you will . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>- A 467-feet long, 800-ton megaload traversing north on US95 thru Moscow (Washington </div><div>Street) as it approaches the curves in the road (by the Corner) that merges with south-bound US95 in Moscow (Jackson Street).</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>- That same 467-feet long, 800-ton megaload traveling east on I-90 (just east of Cd'A) as it approaches the Veterans Memorial Bridge.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>NOW, DO YOU GET IT?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>'Nuff said!!!<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;" clear="none"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv4514887085yqt7572919626" id="yiv4514887085yqt62073"><div><br clear="none">On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">What is your argument with, if not the permit process. That's the question I'm trying to ask.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Paul<br clear="none"><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"
target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:04 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4514887085y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv4514887085"><div><div>I have no argument with the "process", Mr. Rumelhart . . . unless that
process is politically circumvented.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Care to share your understanding of weight limitations on public roadways . . . the one stipulated in Idaho's statutes?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>(Hint: "467 feet in length, coupled with 1,600,000 pounds in weigh" kinda exceeds it)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I've done my research, Mr. Rumelhart. Now, it's your turn.</div><div><br clear="none"><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span
style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;" clear="none"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv4514887085yqt5003015190" id="yiv4514887085yqt59579"><div><br clear="none">On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">So there is a permit process covering this. Is there something wrong with that process?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Paul<br clear="none"><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:26 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4514887085y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv4514887085"><div><div>These megaloads, like your imagination, Mr. Rumelhart, are oversized.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>And speaking of permits . . . that 647-feet long, 800-ton megaload currently snailing its way down eastern Oregon has not yet obtained a permit from the Idaho Transportation Department.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br
clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's
room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;" clear="none"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv4514887085yqt8004431803" id="yiv4514887085yqt97596"><div><br clear="none">On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div
style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Well we all know that men overestimate length quite regularly, so I couldn't say. Isn't there a permit process already established for these large shipments? Are those limits or the costs of the permits inadequate?</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Paul<br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:56 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4514887085y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv4514887085"><div><div>That depends, Mr. Rumelhart.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>What do you consider to be "large"?</div><div><br clear="none"><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you
must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;" clear="none"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv4514887085yqt1853165700" id="yiv4514887085yqt03856"><div><br clear="none">On Dec 19, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">I'm confused. Are you against all transportation of large
items in Idaho using public roads?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Paul<br clear="none"><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 19, 2013 5:36 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
[Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4514887085y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv4514887085"><div><div><div><span style="">Dec 18, 2013 — Introduced</span></div><h4><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1854?utm_campaign=govtrack_email_update&utm_source=govtrack/email_update&utm_medium=email" style=""><font color="#000000">S. 1854: A bill to amend title 23, United States Code, with respect to the operation of longer combination vehicles on the Interstate System in Idaho, and for other purposes.</font></a></h4><div style="margin-left:2em;"><div><span style="">Sponsor: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/michael_crapo/300030">Sen. Michael Crapo [R-ID]</a></span></div><div><span style="">This bill was referred to the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works which
will consider it before sending it to the Senate floor for
consideration.</span></div><div><span style="">Sen. Michael Crapo [R-ID] is a member of the committee.</span></div></div></div><div><span style="">----------------------------------</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="">This bill currently has one cosponsor . . . Sen. James Risch (R-ID).</div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div style="">Of the options available to Sens. Crapo and Risch, this one beats chasing Winmills, huh?</div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div style="">Source:</div><div><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1854?utm_campaign=govtrack_email_update&utm_source=govtrack/email_update&utm_medium=emaild">https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1854?utm_campaign=govtrack_email_update&utm_source=govtrack/email_update&utm_medium=emaild</a></span></div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div style="">Seeya 'round town,
Moscow, because . . .</div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div style="">"Moscow Cares"
(the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style=""> </div><div style=""><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;" clear="none"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><br
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