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It's compromise on all sides but the prosecutor gets another notch on his belt, the defendant avoids a a harsher conviction/sentence, and maybe the victim gets some sense that some justice was meted.<br><br>To Tom's question of '</span></span></span></span>How does that not translate to a conviction?' that should all be spelled out in 1974 Florida law on how withheld judgements are handled. He completed his probation, so his guilty plea was probably withdrawn at that point and it closed the books on that case.<br><br>That moves us on to Idaho law. Does a withdrawn guilty plea at the end of a WHJ for a crime in a state other than Idaho still DQ an applicant for a concealed carry permit? Apparently the answer is yes because the sheriff yanked the permit.<br><br>Is is a crime to supposedly lie on the application? Apparently not otherwise he'd be hit up with some sort of charge for doing so.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: thansen@moscow.com<br>Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 18:27:46 -0800<br>To: lfalen@turbonet.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho senator wants Rep. Mark Patterson to resign<br><br><div style=""><span></span></div><div><div style=""><span></span></div><div><div style="">Two things, Mr. Falen . . . </div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">- Patterson PLEAD GUILTY and was, therefor, FOUND GUILTY. How does that not translate to a conviction?</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">--------------------------</div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><div style="">- You suggest . . .</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">"It seems to be he is being attacked for his political beliefs."</div></div><div><p style="overflow:visible !important;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">From the article:</span></p><p style="overflow:visible !important;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"A state senator Tuesday called for Republican leaders from Boise to seek the resignation of Rep. Mark Patterson after his failure to disclose his guilty plea in a 1974 rape case led to revocation of his concealed weapons permit.</span></p><p style="overflow:visible !important;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sen. Fred Martin, R-Boise and one of District 15’s precinct committee members, said he expects officials from the southwest Boise district will assemble <a target="_blank">next Tuesday</a> to discuss Patterson’s future in the Legislature, less than a month before the 2014 session begins."</span></p><p style="overflow:visible !important;"><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2013-December/094668.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2013-December/094668.html</a></span></p><p style="overflow:visible !important;"><span style="">State Senator Fred Martin, a REPUBLICAN, is seeking Patterson's resignation.</span></p><p style="overflow:visible !important;"><span style="">Are you suggesting that the state Republican Party is attacking Peterson "for his political beliefs"?</span></p><p style="overflow:visible !important;"><span style="">-------------------------------</span></p></div><div style=""><div style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style=""><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style=""> </div><div style=""><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""><br></span></font></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div style=""><br></div></div><div style=""><br>On Dec 13, 2013, at 5:58 PM, lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote style=""><div><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxiw_mail" dir="LTR">Saundra<BR> <BR>I read the article by Popkey. I am unconvinced. If he lied on his gun permit application that would be problematic for me. If the question was "Have you ever been convicted of a felony" he did not lie. James Clapper and Eric Holder both lied under oath and were not held accountable. I think that the should have been.<BR>On his conviction, he says he was innocent, but was advised by his attorney to take the deal. Is there any collaborative evidence other than the women's story? He may have been guilty, but I do not the that there is proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. Therefor he should not have been convicted. Other than for the 1977 incident for which he was acquitted, he has had no other problems. It seems to be he is being attacked for his political beliefs. The correct place to address this is at the ballot box.<BR>Roger<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><br> <BR><div class="ecxsignature"></div><br><blockquote class="ecxreply_block" style="padding-left:1em;font-family:tahoma,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;" dir="LTR"><hr size="1">-----Original Message-----<br>From: "Saundra Lund" <<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>><br>To: lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>>, "Moscow Vision 2020" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>, "Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>Date: 12/12/13 19:43<br>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Idaho senator wants Rep. Mark Patterson to resign<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;">Rather, this was a case where Predatory Patterson offered a distressed woman he didn't know a ride to <b>her</b> home, he instead took her to <b>his</b> home, he chased her down when she tried to escape him, and then he threatened her with attack by his uncontrollable 80 pound dog before he raped her. He should have been locked up for a very long time, and that plea agreement was the best thing that ever happened in the POS'sspan> life.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;">Cut him some slack?!?! Really?!?! Would you be saying that had it been your wife, daughter, sister, mother, or friend he abducted and raped? Somehow, I think not.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;">For those who missed the news coverage, Dan Popkey did some excellent in-depth reporting for the Statesman. Roger, how about reading the articles and then report back to us about whether you've changed your mind about cutting this chronic lying POS some slack?</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;" lang="EN">Idaho lawmaker Mark Patterson could lose weapons license over old Florida guilty plea</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;">More strange details in Rep. Patterson case: the death of 'Hanging' Harry Coe</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt;">I can't blame Senator Martin for wanting Patterson to resign - it's what any decent human being would want from a lying POS like Patterson. And, Patterson clearly isn't anything even remotely resembling a decent human being - he's a violent predator who couldn't be honest or truthful if his life depended on it, and his behavior following the revelations of his shameful life reveal him to be just as lacking in character as he was when he abducted and raped that poor woman.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">From:</span></b> <span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of</b> lfalen<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision 2020; Tom Hansen<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Idaho senator wants Rep. Mark Patterson to resign</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">I am all for being tough on rapists, but this was 40 years ago when he was young. Cut the guy some slack.</p>
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<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Courtesy of today's (December 11, 2013) Spokesman Review.</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">BOISE - A state senator Tuesday called for Republican leaders from Boise to seek the resignation of Rep. Mark Patterson after his failure to disclose his guilty plea in a 1974 rape case led to revocation of his concealed weapons permit.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Sen. Fred Martin, R-Boise and one of District 15's precinct committee members, said he expects officials from the southwest Boise district will assemble next Tuesday to discuss Patterson's future in the Legislature, less than a month before the 2014 session begins.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">However, another official in District 15, which Patterson represents, said the situation is "fluid" and no meeting has been finalized.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Patterson has been the focus of attention since the Idaho Statesman in November reported he failed to disclose the 39-year-old guilty plea in a Florida rape case when he applied for a permit to carry a concealed weapon, first in 2007 and again in 2012. Ada County Sheriff Gary Raney revoked Patterson's permit in late October. Raney has said Patterson's record makes him ineligible for a concealed weapons permit in Idaho.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">In an interview Tuesday, Martin said he remains hopeful Patterson will resign voluntarily. If he doesn't, however, Martin said a resolution has been drafted that demands the first-term Republican lawmaker quit.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">"This behavior is not acceptable," Martin said. "I feel confident that Legislative District 15's precinct committee people will do what is right for Idaho, the Republican Party and especially voters of District 15. I also hope that Rep. Patterson does what's right for himself and his family."</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">In addition to not disclosing the plea on his concealed weapons permit application, Martin said Patterson's reaction to the situation has been aggressive.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Consequently, Martin said, he was asked to organize security for Tuesday's tentative meeting because some District 15 officials had safety concerns.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Patterson couldn't be reached Tuesday. Wade Woodard, Patterson's lawyer, didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Dan Luker, District 15's secretary, said its executive committee has met and agreed that the entire 15-person precinct committee should gather to discuss Patterson's future.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Still, Luker said no such meeting has been finalized.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">"We'd have to have an agenda and a location, and I can say, as of this moment, not all of those pieces are in place to allow such a notice to go out," Luker said Tuesday afternoon. "That may change in the future, but as of this moment, that's the case. I don't know if we'll have a quorum, or whether the meeting will happen or not."</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">In May 1974, a then-21-year-old Patterson was charged with rape in Tampa. A 46-year-old woman told police Patterson forced her to have sex twice and threatened to have his Doberman pinscher attack her if she refused, according to police reports.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Patterson served time in jail before agreeing that July to plead guilty to the lesser charge of assault with intent to commit rape, receiving a withheld judgment and five years probation.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Patterson was ordered to leave Florida. Two years later, he was released from probation, records show.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Now, however, he says he was innocent but pleaded guilty 39 years ago on the advice of his attorney, expecting the crime would eventually be expunged from his record.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">"I was a young kid," Patterson has told the Statesman. "I was charged with a crime I didn't do. My attorney told me to take the deal."</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="overflow:visible;"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">Though Patterson lost his concealed weapons permit, he can continue to carry a concealed weapon because of 1990 law that exempts elected officials from having to obtain a permit. Idaho is the only state that exempts elected officials from the permit law.</span></p>
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<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></p></div>
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