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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I'd choose 1, 4, 5, and 14 since those are the ones that would most likely affect citizens on an ongoing basis. The 2nd amendment also should be thrown into the mix as well since that one will be also be used forever in litigation and political posturing.<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">CC: scooterd408@hotmail.com; lfalen@turbonet.com; vision2020@moscow.com; thansen@moscow.com<br>From: suehovey@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Are You Smart Enough to Be a Citizen?<br>Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:31:56 -0800<br>To: godshatter@yahoo.com<br><br><div>I agree. It may be that identifying pictures helps those with limited English, but in this case the help would be minimal. And when one takes any single question or idea in isolation, the question becomes, "why is this such an important element, one that if I don't know it would be my 'fatal flaw?' " and that's the major problem with high stakes testing no matter what the goal. Determining which items are essential and others simply good to know, isn't as easily agreed upon as many might think. </div><div><br></div><div>An example, if you were writing a high stakes citizenship test and wanted applicants to know the elements of the 4 most critical amendments, which 4 would you choose? For me, I think 1, 13, 14 and hummmmm 4 5 15 26 19 ? the ERA if we ever get it passed? Let me think about that. </div><div><br></div><div>Sue <br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Dec 9, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Why does it matter, while we're on the subject, whether or not you can identify the Supremes in a line-up? Having so much of the test focused on that one useless and trivial set of data seems bizarre.<br><br>I was expecting more questions on the amendments or what the criteria are for running for President, or something along those lines.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="display:block;" class="ecxyahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, December 9, 2013 12:26 PM, Scott Dredge
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--></style><div><div dir="ltr">If you ace the 'civic knowledge' and 'history' sections, you get 41 points. You get brownie points above that score based on how much you embellish on the 'personal history' section.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div class="ecxyiv9809957838yqt7250315568" id="ecxyiv9809957838yqtfd27464"><hr id="ecxyiv9809957838stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 12:03:35 -0800<br clear="none">To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">From: <a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Are You Smart Enough to Be a Citizen?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><style><!--
--></style><div class="ecxyiv9809957838ecxiw_mail" dir="LTR">My score was 68. I don't know what the total points are. I don't think I missed more than one or two.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none">Roger<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="ecxyiv9809957838ecxsignature"></div><br clear="none"><blockquote class="ecxyiv9809957838ecxreply_block" dir="LTR" style="padding-left:1em;font-family:tahoma, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;"><hr size="1">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">From: "Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none">To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br clear="none">Date: 12/07/13 11:27<br clear="none">Subject: [Vision2020] Are You Smart Enough to Be a Citizen?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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