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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Tom writes:<br><Are you
suggesting that Rep. Simpson's bill requesting an additional cirguit
judge is/was TWO YEARS in the making . . . and was (merely)
coincidentally submitted 33 days after Circuit Judge Winmill's decision
to deny a speedy decision concerning megaloads on Highway 12?><br><br>Considering that this is '<span class="st">a situation in which events happen at the same time in a way that is not planned or expected', I'd say that conforms to the definition of a mere coincidence. However, it's not a very good example of a coincidence considering Judge Winmill himself supports it. Also, if it was TWO YEARS in the making, then the megaload decision had zero influence on the bill's inception. Further, a 3rd judge would have only marginally affected whether or not the megaload case would have been heard by Judge Winmill. Beyond that, there is a high likelihood that a different judge would have still applied standing law to the megaload case and would have rendered a similar decision as Judge Winmill.<br><br>I hope this sorts out both the 'Huh?' and the 'Why?' questions you had about this and removes any of your suggested conspiracy concerns.<br><br>-Scott<br></span><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: thansen@moscow.com<br>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 09:53:46 -0800<br>To: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh? Why?<br><br><div><a href="http://www.nomegaloads.com/Winmill_Reconsideration_Decision_101013.htm" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.nomegaloads.com/Winmill_Reconsideration_Decision_101013.htm</font></a><br><br><div style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style=""><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style=""> </div><div style=""><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""><br></span></font></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div style=""><br></div></div><div style=""><br>On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote style=""><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Two judges are having trouble handling the case load, so they are requesting a third. Where do the megaloads fit into this?<br><br>I thought I was the conspiracy nut on this list.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="display:block;" class="ecxyahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:33 AM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="ecxy_msg_container"><div id="ecxyiv1989946049"><div><div>Are you serious?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Are you
suggesting that Rep. Simpson's bill requesting an additional cirguit judge is/was TWO YEARS in the making . . . and was (merely) coincidentally submitted 33 days after Circuit Judge Winmill's decision to deny a speedy decision concerning megaloads on Highway 12?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'm guessin' that Advocates for the West (attorneys for the Nez Perce Tribe and Idaho Rivers United) are in disagreement with your implied suggestion.</div><div><br clear="none"><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;" clear="none"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="ecxyiv1989946049yqt6320565480" id="ecxyiv1989946049yqt48441"><div><br clear="none">On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Ron Force <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div><span>From the ever-reliable Betsy Z:</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><h2 class="ecxyiv1989946049quiet ecxyiv1989946049top" style="font-size:30px;color:rgb(170, 170, 170);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="ecxyiv1989946049quiet" target="_blank" href="http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/" style="text-decoration:none;outline-color:invert;outline-width:medium;color:rgb(170, 170, 170);border:0px;">Eye On Boise</a></h2><div style="background-color:transparent;"><span></span></div><div class="ecxyiv1989946049" style="color:rgb(17, 17, 17);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;"><h1 style="font-size:24px;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2011/nov/14/federal-judges-idaho-face-swelling-caseload/" style="text-decoration:none;outline-color:invert;outline-width:medium;color:rgb(38, 70, 93);border:0px;">Federal judges in Idaho face swelling caseload</a></h1><div class="ecxyiv1989946049" style="font-size:12px;"><div class="ecxyiv1989946049" style="border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(238, 238, 238);padding:4px 0px;overflow:hidden;">Posted by <b>Betsy</b></div><div class="ecxyiv1989946049" style="color:rgb(119, 119, 119);"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2011/nov/14/federal-judges-idaho-face-swelling-caseload/" style="text-decoration:none;outline-color:invert;outline-width:medium;color:rgb(38, 70, 93);font-weight:bold;border:0px;">Nov. 14, 2011 9:23 a.m.</a> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2011/nov/14/federal-judges-idaho-face-swelling-caseload/#comments" title="comments" style="text-decoration:none;outline-color:invert;outline-width:medium;color:rgb(38, 70, 93);font-weight:bold;border:0px;">0 comments</a></div></div><div class="ecxyiv1989946049" style="clear:both;"><div style="">Idaho's two U.S. District Court judges are juggling three times the caseloads of federal judges in Wyoming, Montana, South Dakota and Alaska, and each of those states has three federal judges, instead of two, the Idaho Business Review reports. In fact, the state's population has more than doubled since Congress last approved an additional federal district judgeship here. Click below for a full report from the Business Review and the Associated Press.</div><br id="ecxyiv1989946049more" clear="none"><div style="">Idaho federal judges face
increased workloads<br clear="none"><br clear="none">BOISE, Idaho (AP) Idaho's two federal court judges are facing increased workloads to handle cases in a state that has more than doubled in population since Congress approved an additional district judgeship.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Officials tell the Idaho Business Review (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/s6iE9y">http://bit.ly/s6iE9y</a>) that the size of the court hasn't kept pace with the increase in case filings. Idaho's population in 1960 was about 700,000 residents, and is now 1.5 million.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Chief District Judge B. Lynn Winmill and District Judge Edward J. Lodge are the state's two federal judges. The court also has two magistrate judges and two retired magistrates to
manage caseloads. The district judges handle felony criminal cases, while the magistrate judges handle civil cases, criminal misdemeanor cases and other criminal motions.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I have my own standards, but it's getting very, very hard to meet my standards, Winmill said. I want to have my decisions out in 30 days. Historically, I've done OK until last year.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Rules that require speedy trials mean district judges have to resolve criminal cases first, delaying civil cases. Complex cases can tie up district judges, leading to visiting federal court judges from out of state handling some Idaho cases.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That means non-Idaho judges are deciding Idaho cases, said U.S. Attorney Wendy Olson.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The court in 2008 listed a 96 percent increase in visiting judge hours.
Those judges conducted 22 civil and criminal trials in 2008, and 15 civil and criminal trials in 2009.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">District Court records show that in 2008, there were 532 weighted case filings per judgeship. A weighted case requires more time because of its complexity. Winmill said his weighted case filings are closer to 600 now.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Idaho, along with North Dakota and Vermont, are the only states with just two district judges.<br clear="none">Wyoming, Montana, South Dakota and Alaska each have three federal district judges, though Idaho has three times the caseloads of those states.<br clear="none">___<br clear="none">Information from: Idaho Business Review , <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://idahobusinessreview.com/">http://idahobusinessreview.com/</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Copyright 2011 The Associated Press.</div></div></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Ron
Force<br clear="none">Moscow Idaho USA</div><div class="ecxyiv1989946049yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:39 AM, Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);padding-left:5px;"> <div class="ecxyiv1989946049y_msg_container"><div id="ecxyiv1989946049"><div><div style="">Could the "necessity" for an <b>additional</b> circuit judge in Idaho be found in . . . </div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.nomegaloads.com/Winmill_Reconsideration_Decision_101013.htm">http://www.nomegaloads.com/Winmill_Reconsideration_Decision_101013.htm</a></span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style=""> </div><div style=""><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;" clear="none"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div></div><div style=""><br clear="none">On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote style=""><div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style=""><span></span></div><div></div></div><div><div style=""><photo.PNG></div><div class="ecxyiv1989946049yqt8810959007" id="ecxyiv1989946049yqt61912"><div style="">---------------------------------</div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div style="">This
bill was introduced yesterday (November 12, 2013). As such, text of this bill is not yet available.</div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3457?utm_campaign=govtrack_email_update&utm_source=govtrack/email_update&utm_medium=email">https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3457?utm_campaign=govtrack_email_update&utm_source=govtrack/email_update&utm_medium=email</a></span></div><div style=""><br clear="none"></div><div style="">Question: Why would Idaho require an <b>additional</b> district judge?</div></div><div style=""><br clear="none"><div class="ecxyiv1989946049yqt8810959007" id="ecxyiv1989946049yqt30740"><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's
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