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<DIV>And I, also. But perhaps not in the manner to which you refer. Should
I agree with a biblically inspired bigot and unreliable historian, I’d check to
determine where I had erred. </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=keim153@gmail.com
href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">Darrell Keim</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 09, 2013 1:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">Saundra Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Straight from the Horses Mouth (or
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<DIV dir=ltr>I have sometimes found the writings of Pastor Wilson to be a good
guide in helping me decide how to vote.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Saundra Lund <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"
target=_blank>v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks, Rose, for
posting the below. Now that the election is behind us, I will comment on
one – and only one -- part of the bigoted lies most of us know Dough Wilson to
be famous for.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Doug Wilson
wrote:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">It is not necessary to use all
three of your votes, but it is important not to use any of them in favor of
Rebecca, a woman who uses exclamation marks on her yard signs, a thing which
ought not to be done.<SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">And that, folks, is
confirmation that whatever stones Wilson once had, he’s long since lost them
and is now nothing more than a garden variety lily-livered
liar.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">In the past, Wilson’s
spittle-flecked bloviations at least would have been honest (from his
perspective) if morally bankrupt. “You must not,” he would have spewed,
“vote for Rebecca Rod. First, she’s a woman, and it’s unbiblical for
women to have any authority among men. The scourge of feminism
<B>must</B> be stopped! Even more importantly in this case, is that the
She-Devil is a <gasp> <B>lesbian!</B> I have preached <B>many
times</B> that God has removed his protection from this nation for three
reasons: feminism, homosexuality, and abortion. To vote for this Rod
woman is to vote for a candidate that will ensure that God will continue to
turn His back on America, and you will be dammed to hell for all eternity
should you vote for this “person”!”<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">We’ll ignore, for a
moment, the exclamation marks used in Wilson’s based-on-fact hypothetical
diatribe </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: wingdings; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">J</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">No matter what one
thinks of the hate & incivility Wilson & his toadies routinely spew,
we could count on him to <B>not</B> hold back on using his Big Three as
justification for attacking community members.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Not anymore. Now,
he’s apparently come up with a new code (similar to his “Intolerista” label)
in which using exclamation punctuation is The Scarlet Letter, if you will, to
mark those in the LGBTQ community. What a sad , fat, impotent little man
he’s become in the sunset of his life. I guess the unbiblical hate that
he routinely preaches has finally consumed the last of his soul. What a
surprise . . . not.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">What <B>is</B> a
genuine surprise, though, is that Moscow’s conservative base apparently hasn’t
figured out that Wilson is a washed-up has been on the national scene.
He’s no longer respected outside a few truly fringe groups. He is simply
old news with no power outside, no national draw, no longer able to even
successfully import converts other than those with mental health issues that
make things like patriarchy attractive to the miscreants. His message
has become too offensive for respect even amongst other conservative
Evangelicals . . . yet local wingnut conservatives still think he’s something
other than a bigoted hate-monger. Behind the times
much?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">One last comment,
although this one is directed at the GMA. There are more than a few
intelligent, articulate, successful Republican business women in Moscow, yet
GMA chose to <B>again </B>run a white male only slate of candidates for the
City election. What on earth is wrong with the GMA and its
leadership?!<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">And, perhaps more
importantly, what on earth is wrong with the Moscow’s Republican woman that
they wouldn’t expect a seat at Moscow’s GOP table?!<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Perhaps, just perhaps,
this was the wake-up call those in the community needed to understand that
it’s up to <B>us</B> to demand that Moscow’s GOP & GMA quit trying to set
this community back 50 or more years by only allowing white males at the
table.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">At least, that’s my
hope.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Because, unfortunately,
the GMA has shown that’s the direction it’s consistently driving in for
Moscow. Again, behind the times much? I guess so.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Saundra<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Moscow,
ID<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Well-behaved women
seldom make history.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">~ Laurel Thatcher
Ulrich<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Rosemary
Huskey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 04, 2013 10:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Moscow Vision 2020'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Straight from the Horses
Mouth (or perhaps, elsewhere)<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<H2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/voting-in-a-wobbly-canoe.html"
target=_blank>Voting in a Wobbly Canoe</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></H2>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Posted on
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A title="7:59 am"
href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/voting-in-a-wobbly-canoe.html"
target=_blank>Monday, November 4, 2013</A><SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>by
</SPAN><SPAN><A title="View all posts by Douglas Wilson"
href="http://dougwils.com/author/admin" target=_blank>Douglas
Wilson</A></SPAN> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://dougwils.com/the-church/political-not-partisan.html#more-105659"
target=_blank>Yesterday I exhorted the saints</A> at Christ Church to make
sure that they voted in our local election tomorrow. In the course of that
exhortation I said that it was not the church’s business to descend into
partisan factionalism, but that it was our responsibility to pray that we
would be allowed to “lead a quiet and peaceable life” (<A
href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/1%20Tim.%202.2" target=_blank>1 Tim.
2:2</A>). I said that we ought to be voting in the same direction as our
prayers, which means that we should be voting in the direction of civil
magistrates leaving us alone. That would include doing something about zoning
commissions that are used as a cat’s paw for various
intoleristas.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Having said that, I was
asked several times about <A
href="http://dougwils.com/s8-expository/pulpit-freedom-2.html"
target=_blank>something I said in the pulpit last year,</A> and was also
challenged online because of <A
href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/rabbits-should-know-what-hawks-look-like.html"
target=_blank>my recent comments</A> about evangelical pastors who had voted
for Obama the second time.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The first link in the
previous paragraph goes to a sermon outline I preached on Pulpit Freedom
Sunday. In that sermon I endorsed, or came close enough to it as makes no
difference, a candidate for the state legislature, a man named Gresham Bouma.
How does that fit with what I said yesterday?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I do believe that the
church should stay out of partisan politics, but I believe this on theological
grounds. The rule should be a <EM><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">church</SPAN></EM> standard, and
this means the IRS has absolutely no authority to be setting restrictions on
what ministers may say. So the first point is that this was said as part of a
nationwide challenge to the IRS. This was made possible by the candidacy of
Gresham, a well-known member of our Christian community operating with a
biblical worldview — a man who fears the Lord, is a man of truth, and who
hates covetousness (<A href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Ex.%2018.21"
target=_blank>Ex. 18:21</A>). It was an exceptional circumstance for a
specific situation.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In the current race, we
have candidates who represent the officious left, and candidates who represent
views more friendly to economic growth — but no one is representing a
full-orbed biblical approach to anything. To use the power of the pulpit to
lean this way or that in a wobbly canoe would be
inappropriate.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In short, to say that the
pulpit should never be partisan does not mean that it can never be personal.
It <EM><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">can</SPAN></EM> be
personal, but that is rare.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">On the Obama question,
the question is simpler and much more straightforward. He supports the killing
of babies and therefore no consistent Christian may support him. That is not a
partisan issue, and it only appears to be such because the Democratic Party
has been captured by bloodthirsty ghouls.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">One last thing. This blog
is owned and operated by me, the proprietor, and is not supported in any way
with tithe money, which means that I am functioning here as a private citizen,
albeit a noisy one in a party hat. That means I can say I voted for Lambert
instead of Chaney, and in the council race, the voter has three votes that he
can spread over four candidates. It is not necessary to use all three of your
votes, but it is important not to use any of them in favor of Rebecca, a woman
who uses exclamation marks on her yard signs, a thing which ought not to be
done. So I voted for the three non-Rebeccas. Those who are interested in more
information can check with <A href="http://www.greatermoscow.org/"
target=_blank>the Greater Moscow Alliance</A>.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">It would be nice if we
could get to a place where smart growth officials would quit giving each other
awards for the achievement of empty lots, which we already had, and which are
not exactly the pyramids.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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