<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><img src="cid:47394C9D-48D4-448E-85F8-56E565B9CA25" alt="puppy-wife.jpg" id="47394C9D-48D4-448E-85F8-56E565B9CA25" width="300" height="300"><br><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:16 AM, "Rosemary Huskey" <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks for posting this link, Tom. It is the case that few, if any, who participate on V2020 claim to be theologians. Nonetheless, in the broader (as in national and international) religious world Doug Wilson has an extremely limited number of defenders. He is accurately recognized as a bigoted, sexist, devourer of the crackpottery of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_John_Rushdoony"><span style="color:windowtext">Rushdonney</span></a>, who uses his less attractive notions for example:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> ‘</span>“<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In other words, however we try, the sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party. A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts. This is of course offensive to all egalitarians, and so our culture has rebelled against the concept of authority and submission in marriage.” [ See more at: <a href="http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/10/30/douglas-wilson-says-pastors-who-voted-for-obama-should-resign/#sthash.JWQgjDyD.dpuf">http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/10/30/douglas-wilson-says-pastors-who-voted-for-obama-should-resign/#sthash.JWQgjDyD.dpuf</a>] <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">to lure in ego deficit men who need the doctrine of patriarchy to feel powerful over at least some part of their pathetically unfulfilled lives. It is refreshing to be reminded that in the larger religious community Doug and his elders are recognized as neither Reformed nor a part of any recognized segment of the Presbyterian Church. It just occurred to me that maybe there is something special in the air of Moscow. Doug et al are just a contemporary version of the late, unlamented version of </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://nwpr.org/post/psychiana-moscows-mail-order-religion">Psychiana</a></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">. Sigh. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rose Huskey</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Cc:</b> Jeanne McHale; Fritz Knorr<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Pastor Douglas Wilson says ministers who voted for Obama should resign<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Courtesy of Religion News Service at:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/10/30/douglas-wilson-says-pastors-who-voted-for-obama-should-resign/">http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/10/30/douglas-wilson-says-pastors-who-voted-for-obama-should-resign/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in"><b>Pastor Douglas Wilson says ministers who voted for Obama should resign. Maybe he should go first.</b><o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Douglas Wilson, pastor of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, says that pastors who voted for Barack Obama in the last election should resign.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">“Any evangelical leader — by which I mean someone like a minister or an elder — who voted for Obama the second time, is not qualified for the office he holds, and should resign that office,” <a href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/rabbits-should-know-what-hawks-look-like.html" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Wilson wrote in a blog post dated October 14</span></a>. “Unless and until he repents of how he is thinking about the challenges confronting our nation, he should not be entrusted with the care of souls.”<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Voting for Barack Obama, Wilson <a href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/rabbits-should-know-what-hawks-look-like.html" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">said</span></a>, “exhibits a fundamental condition of cluelessness” because the President is pro-choice.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Forty-two percent of Protestants and 50 percent of Catholics voted for Barack Obama in 2012, <a href="http://www.pewforum.org/2012/11/07/how-the-faithful-voted-2012-preliminary-exit-poll-analysis/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">according to Pew Research</span></a>. This includes 95 percent of black Protestants.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">In <a href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/rabbits-should-know-what-hawks-look-like.html" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">his post</span></a>, Wilson took special aim at African-American Christians:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #B0AEA7 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 11.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:15.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:15.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><i>Not only must the dignity of human life be upheld by white and black Christian leaders alike, to the extent we may allow any differences, it should be to expect a greater vehemence in opposing abortion (in the person of its advocates and enablers) from black leaders. This is because it is their people who are being disproportionately targeted by the white Sangerites. And a black Christian leader who cannot identify a Sangerite is a rabbit leader who does not know what a hawk looks like.</i><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">He later likened voting for Barack Obama to German leaders voting for Hitler.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">These comments are only the tip of the outrageous iceberg that is Douglas Wilson’s public record. But Wilson continues to gain a hearing, particularly among Reformed Christians. He’s written numerous articles for <a href="http://theresurgence.com/authors/douglas-wilson" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Mark Driscoll’s “Resurgence” blog</span></a>, has <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/a-conversation-with-doug-wilson-and-john-piper" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">shared a stage with popular pastor John Piper</span></a>, and <a href="http://amzn.to/17rC3c3" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">his book on fathering</span></a> was released by Christian publisher Thomas Nelson in 2012. He has more than 16,000 <a href="https://twitter.com/douglaswils" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">twitter followers</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">From the outset, let me say that I am unashamedly pro-life. I believe that the culture of abortion in our country will be judged as a blemish in our history by future generations. Abortion is one of the most significant moral issues of our time.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Yet, I would never argue that a pastor who voted for Barack Obama should resign his post. And I say this <i>because </i>of my allegiance to the Bible, not in spite of it. The Bible talks extensively about the qualifications for a pastor, most directly in the books of Titus and 1 Timothy. But even though it lists more than a dozen requirements from those who should hold that office, it does not list anything resembling a political requirement.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">In fact, the Apostle Peter in his first epistle says that pastors should be examples to their flocks. He does this just three chapters after he tells the faithful to “honor the emperor.” This does not sound very extreme to modern readers, but a first century audience would know that the emperor was known for approving mass murder of the Jewish people.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">As I pointed out in my book, <a href="http://amzn.to/VrhIwq" target="_blank"><em><span style="text-decoration:none">A Faith of Our Own</span></em><span style="text-decoration:none">,</span></a> just before Christ’s birth, Roman armies rolled through Galilee, burning down villages and killing innocents. Any who resisted their rule were tortured and often executed to deter mass rebellion. Sometime around or after Jesus’ birth, the Roman general Varus gathered the rebels in and around Jesus’ hometown and crucified about two thousand men.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Yet, Peter told believers to honor this emperor? Maybe Wilson thinks the surly apostle should have resigned his post too.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">By all accounts, Wilson jumped the shark a long time ago.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">He expressed disturbing views on slavery in his pamphlet <a href="http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/slavery/southern_slavery_as_it_was.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">“Southern Slavery, As it Was.”</span></a> Speaking fondly of the “unexpected blessings” of slavery, Wilson <a href="http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/slavery/southern_slavery_as_it_was.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">said</span></a>, “slavery produced in the South a genuine affection between the races that we believe we can say has never existed in any nation before the War or since.”<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">In 2005, Wilson insinuated that <a href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/one-of-those-circus-ponies.html" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">gays and lesbians could be executed by law</span></a> in some circumstances:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #B0AEA7 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 11.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:15.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:15.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><i>This is what happens when people comb through my words without reading them. “Yes, they will say, but notice that even if you don’t believe in the death penalty for homosexual behavior in all circumstances, you have (by implication) said that there could be occasions when it is called for. Admit it!” Okay, I admit it.</i><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">As support, he cited <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20%3A13&version=NIV" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Leviticus 20:13</span></a>, which states that those who commit sexual acts with someone of the same gender should be put to death.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">“I also believe that the law of the Old Testament was the model for our common law system,” Wilson <a href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/one-of-those-circus-ponies.html" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">commented</span></a>, “and our system should work in the same way.”<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">He <a href="http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/one-of-those-circus-ponies.html" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">added</span></a> that “killing homosexuals is pretty much a non-priority for me” since AIDS is claiming so many lives in the LGBTQ community.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><span class="tweetable"><a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?original_referer=http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/10/30/douglas-wilson-says-pastors-who-voted-for-obama-should-resign/&source=tweetbutton&text=Douglas%20Wilson%20thinks%20Democratic%20ministers%20should%20step%20down%2C%20but%20maybe%20he%20should&url=http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/10/30/douglas-wilson-says-pastors-who-voted-for-obama-should-resign/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Douglas Wilson thinks Democratic ministers should step down, but maybe </span><em><span style="text-decoration:none">he</span></em><span style="text-decoration:none"> should</span><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></a></span>. While there is not a political requirement for pastors in scripture, the Bible <em>does</em> say that they should <a href="http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/3-3.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">not be quarrelsome</span></a>, <a href="http://biblehub.com/titus/1-7.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">peacemakers</span></a>, <a href="http://biblehub.com/titus/1-8.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">self-controlled</span></a>, <a href="http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/3-3.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">gentle</span></a>, <a href="http://biblehub.com/titus/1-7.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">humble</span></a>, and <a href="http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/3-7.htm" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">respectable</span></a>. Given these requirements and the comments above, who do you think should be penning a resignation letter right now?<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">--------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in">Pastor Douglas Wilson says ministers who voted for Obama are unfit, but his comments raise questions about his own ministry.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in"><image001.jpg><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"I'll just speak for our church, in Christ Church. If I found out that a member of our church or a church officer was lying to non-believers in the community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his reputation, yes, hed be disciplined."</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">- Douglas Wilson (January 31, 2007) </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/protest/Doug_Wilson_Liers_013107.mp3">http://www.tomandrodna.com/protest/Doug_Wilson_Liers_013107.mp3</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>=======================================================</span><br><span> List services made available by First Step Internet,</span><br><span> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.</span><br><span> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a></span><br><span> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a></span><br><span>=======================================================</span></div></blockquote></body></html>