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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/21/2013 11:48 AM, Shirley Ringo
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Well,
            it reminds me of my former students who couldn’t come in to
            get help on their math – with the explanation that they
            needed to work after school to get money for college.</span></p>
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    <br>
    That's another short-sighted, penny-wise and pound-foolish situation
    that a well-funded and administered state educational system would
    discourage for educational reasons alone, if no other.  The students
    who don't get the math help they need show up at college wanting to
    major in STEM subjects (science math engineering and math) and find
    they cannot do well because they are expected to make up their high
    school level work simultaneously with taking college level work in
    the same or related subjects for which the high school work is
    prerequisite.<br>
    <br>
    College faculty get frustrated because some of them have to teach
    kids at the kids' levels, which is high school stuff the kids should
    have mastered before arriving at college.<br>
    <br>
    The kids get frustrated, discouraged, and after doing poorly, have a
    worse academic record than that of which they might be capable, and
    they have spent the significant resources associated with a year of
    college.<br>
    <br>
    Those kids probably would have been better off, and they and their
    parents would be a year's (or two years') worth of college costs
    richer, if the kids had stayed home another year (or two), stayed in
    high school for another year (or two), and took all of the math,
    science, and foreign language classes (for B.A. students) they could
    schedule as more college preparation at high school prices and room
    and board.<br>
    <br>
    Of course, it's not all bad news.  There continues to be a
    substantial list of new and continuing students on Deans' lists in
    all of the Colleges, so the message is not all gloom and doom.  But
    it is still the case that a lot of under-prepared students arrive on
    campus, and the fact that they graduated from state high schools in
    that condition is not a mark of favorable distinction for those
    secondary schools.<br>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Sue Hovey<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:42 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] State Board members rip
                Luna’s K-12 budget<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">To
                  my thinking the most interesting statement made by
                  Bill Goesling was his comment (not in this
                  article)that higher education drives the economy and
                  K-12 education doesn’t.  Anyone see any irony in that
                  rationale? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Sue
                  H.</span></p>
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    <br>
    Not particularly ironic, no.  It has long been the case that
    business-oriented people in positions of legislative and
    governmental-executive leadership have had difficulties in
    distinguishing investments that will do well primarily for people
    and secondarily for state coffers, and those investments that might
    do well for private enterprises.  Usually those investment types are
    quite distinguishable and distinct.  Failure to invest more in the
    former, while loosening or removing rules that govern the latter, is
    an ongoing feature, and an ongoing problem, of governmental
    organizations.<br>
    <br>
    The proof that is in the pudding, so to speak, is seen in the
    economic performance data that indicate that the national economy
    does marginally better under Democratic leadership, and marginally
    poorer under Republican leadership.  So much for the Rs being the
    party that can recognize better investments in the public interest.<br>
    <br>
    Chronic, persistent, unimaginative education policy coupled with
    regressive, retrograde, rationed, regional resources has produced an
    educational millieu from which its inmates wish to escape if they
    are able.  Some succeed, others can not.  Idaho voters' inability,
    or blatant stubborn refusal, to elect to their state legislature
    people who can and will enact policies and fund programs to actually
    serve the public interest rather than the interests of private
    investors redounds directly back on those voters in the form of
    substandard educational outcomes and diminished aggregate state
    economic performance.<br>
    <br>
    If Idaho voters appear more retarded in their electoral performances
    than voters of other states, one might reasonably ask what is the
    cause of that retardation, and what is the source of the cause?<br>
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    Ken<br>
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