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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><<span>It doesn't matter who paid for a poll, only what methods were used in the collection of the data.><br><br>True enough. That's why the poll should be conducted amongst 'likely voters' and the pollsters shouldn't be trying taint the outcome. Coincidence that the polling showed that Democrats 'might' take over 17 seats which is exactly the magic number that they need? And how about this prejudicing of the respondents: '</span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;">In only three districts do </span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;">Republican incumbents best generic Democratic challengers a<span class="ecxyiv374349873w6"></span>fter voters are told the</span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a"> incumbent supported the government shutdown</span>.'<br><br>A few years ago I heard a guy on the radio saying that Reagan's approval rating was very low based on some on the street polling that he had conducted. He first ask respondents if they had approved of Reagan. If they said 'yes', he'd follow up with 'well I'm gay and Reagan did nothing to stop the spread of aids when he was in office, do you still approve of him?' And all of them had responded 'no' because he once he told them he was gay, he claimed they would respond honestly to him. All except for one elderly gentleman who he had essentially deemed stubborn and belligerent.<br><br><<span>It is not an election year, so we cannot predict what will occur
in a future election that far out. One year is a lifetime politically.><br><br>Correct. The shutdown will be long gone and forgotten 1+ year from now at the polls. Even so, I'll go out on a limb and predict double digit gains in the House for Republicans.<br><br><</span><span>If Congress sees fit to shut down the government, that is their
right, but they should not be permitted to collect a pay check or
campaign donations, or use any government property or building while it
is shut down. ></span><br><br>I doubt this would influence them to move any faster toward resolution.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 05:07:04 -0700<br>From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New Polls show that GOP may lose House<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com; ngier006@gmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div><span>It doesn't matter who paid for a poll, only what methods were used in the collection of the data. It is not an election year, so we cannot predict what will occur in a future election that far out. One year is a lifetime politically. .</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>If Congress sees fit to shut down the government, that is their right, but they should not be permitted to collect a pay check or campaign donations, or use any government property or building while it is shut down. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Donovan J. Arnold</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Nicholas Gier <ngier006@gmail.com>; viz <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 7, 2013 1:20 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] New Polls show that GOP may lose House<br> </font> </div> <div class="ecxy_msg_container"><br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">Here's the associated link:<br><br>http://front.moveon.org/24-moveon-polls-show-gop-could-lose-house-in-wake-of-shutdown/#.UlJshCQhNpc<br><br>The survey was paid for by moveon.org which is a liberal organization. The memo at the above link states '<span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;">The surveys, commissioned and paid for by <span class="ecxyiv374349873w7"></span>MoveOn.org Political <span class="ecxyiv374349873l6">Action, show</span></span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;"> Republican incumbents behind among <span class="ecxyiv374349873w6"></span>registered voters in head-to-head contests with</span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;"> generic Democratic challengers in 17 districts. In four other districts, the incumbent</span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;"> Republican falls behind a generic Democ<span class="ecxyiv374349873w6"></span>ratic candidate
after respondents are told that the</span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;"> Republican incumbent supported the gov<span class="ecxyiv374349873w6"></span>ernment shutdown. In only three districts do </span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;">Republican incumbents best generic Democratic challengers a<span class="ecxyiv374349873w6"></span>fter voters are told the</span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a"> incumbent supported the government shutdown</span>.'<br><br><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;">'Democrats must pick up 17 seats to win <span class="ecxyiv374349873w6"></span>control of the House. These poll results make</span><span class="ecxyiv374349873a" style="word-spacing:-1px;"> clear that if the election were held <span class="ecxyiv374349873w6"></span>today, such a pickup would be well within reach.'</span><br><br>Barring any unforeseen disaster that can be conclusively pinned on the Republicans over a
year from now, it's safe to say that the Democrats won't be picking up 17 House seats. However, if passed mid-term results are any predictor of future performance, the Democrats would be at risk of losing well more than 17 House seats.<br><br>I'd not be wishing time away for the 2014 elections. We'll all be yet another year older and the election will likely be a dud that wasn't worth waiting for.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><div class="hr" style="padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;"></div>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 19:44:42 -0700<br>From: ngier006@gmail.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: [Vision2020] New Polls show that GOP may lose House<br><br><div dir="ltr"><br></div>
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