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<p dir=ltr>You make good points. However, not using capital letters and not using quotes isn't because they don't understand the rules of English. It is because the are accomplished writers using an artistic license which they earned by mastering their field of literature.  </p>
<p dir=ltr>Donovan J. Arnold. </p>
<p dir=ltr>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android</p>
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                            Sue Hovey <suehovey@moscow.com>;                            <br>
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                            Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com>; Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com>;                                                     <br>
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                            Vision2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>;                                                                             <br>
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                            Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies                            <br>
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<div>Not necessarily.  It just depends on the  reader’s frame of 
reference.  If you sent me a statement ending in “is,”or ending with a 
preposition,  I would look at the content and make a judgment based on the 
content of the message and what I know about you.  Possibly grammatical 
syntax would come into play, but it wouldn’t be my first consideration.  ee 
cummings never used capital letters, Cormac McCarthy doesn’t use quotation 
marks; yet I appreciate their writings far more than anything you and I have 
written correctly as we go back and forth to each other. </div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Donovan Arnold</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 30, 2013 11:20 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="chasuk@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Chasuk</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Tom Hansen</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Vision2020</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies</div></div></div></div>
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<div><span>Yes, there is a problem. It makes the author sound ignorant and lazy 
in their writings. There isn't anything illegal with running your fingernails on 
a chalkboard, or chewing tin foil. However, you will turn the reader and the 
public off from your suggestions and ideas. </span></div>
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<div><span>Donovan J. Arnold</span></div>
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<chasuk@gmail.com><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> 
Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Vision2020 
<vision2020@moscow.com> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 30, 2013 11:13 
PM<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] 
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<div>There isn't anything wrong with ending a sentence with a prepostion. This 
is a fallacy (apparently) promulgated by Alexander Pope.</div>
<div class="yiv2968378052gmail_quote">On Oct 1, 2013 1:33 PM, "Tom Hansen" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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  <div><span>It was once deemed a sin black as soot<br clear="none">To place at a 
  sentence's foot<br clear="none">A mere preposition.<br clear="none">"Absurd 
  superstition,<br clear="none">Up with which," Churchill roared, "I'll not 
  put."</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
  <div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
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  <div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div>
  <div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a></div>
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  <div>Tom Hansen</div>
  <div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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  <div>"<span style="FONT-SIZE:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling 
  you still</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:medium;"> </span></div><span style="FONT-SIZE:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
  </span><br clear="none" style="FONT-SIZE:medium;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the 
  hill."</span></div>
  <div><font size="3"><span><br clear="none"></span></font></div>
  <div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font>
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  <div><br clear="none">On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Sue Hovey <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
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    <div>It is. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div>
    <div><br clear="none">On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Scott Dredge <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> 
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      <div>It is what it is.  Correct?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-Scott</div>
      <div><br clear="none">On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:38 PM, "Sue Hovey" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
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        <div>Not I, Donovan.  Ending a sentence with a preposition is a 
        hanging offense unless I do it, but this, well what is, is......</div>
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        <div><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Donovan 
        Arnold</a> </div>
        <div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 30, 2013 6:06 AM</div>
        <div><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Sunil 
        Ramalingam</a> </div>
        <div><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">vision 2020</a> 
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        <div>I wholeheartedly disagree. It is improper to use the word "is" at 
        the end of sentence. This forum has really degenerated. Next thing you 
        know, people will be ending sentences with a preposition, and some 
        <span><span>disgruntled</span></span> laid off Idaho English teacher is 
        going to go on a rampage breaking people's fingers.  </div>
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        <div>Donovan J. Arnold</div>
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        Ramalingam <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Cc:</span></b> vision 2020 
        <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 
        September 28, 2013 12:10 PM<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] 
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        <div dir="ltr">Scott,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I'll speak only for 
        myself. If Wayne first contacted the street/road department, or 
        whichever department is directly responsible, and they failed to respond 
        or act, and he then emailed Nancy, then I sympathize with him. Based on 
        his email, I don't think he contacted the correct department, but 
        instead contacted Nancy instead. If that is correct, then I don't 
        sympathize with him. I think you should first take action that is most 
        likely to lead to the result you are seeking.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That's the only thing influencing my views, not the 
        exaggerated heap of stuff below.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I do think 
        it's ludicrous to blame the mayor for this if you've failed to contact 
        the correct department, as you and Wayne did. I'd say that whoever the 
        mayor is. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sunil<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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        <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">janesta@gmail.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">idahovandal1@live.com</a><br clear="none">Date: Sat, 28 <span>Sep</span> 2013 12:55:15 -0600<br clear="none">CC: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
        <div dir="ltr"><Street barricades? Someone is pissed off about street 
        barricades?><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Well of course very few on 
        the viz would have any sympathy for street barricades being dumped / 
        stored on Wayne's private property.  After all, he's a hated white 
        over privileged semi-conservative male and thus not part of the viz 
        <span>borg</span> group think majority.  Now had he been an 
        American Indian complaining about this, most on the viz would have 
        expressed <span>blowharded</span> outrage similar to how they express 
        outrage to the temporary use of transporting <span>Megaloads</span> over 
        Highway 12 running through tribal land.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><Someone has WAY too much time of their hands><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Why so?  Do you think it took Wayne an 
        overly large amount of time to lodge a complaint and post an email to 
        the viz?  If so, I think you'd might also agree that someone else 
        who posts magnitudes more CRAP to the viz has WAY WAY WAY too much time 
        on their hands.  :)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-Scott<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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        Sat, 28 <span>Sep</span> 2013 11:33:35 -0700<br clear="none">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">janesta@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">idahovandal1@live.com</a><br clear="none">CC: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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        <div>Once Upon A Time... <br clear="none"><br clear="none">During the Great 
        Land Rush of the late 60's & 70's  Moscow was known throughout 
        the Pacific Northwest, as "The City With A Smile"<br clear="none"></div>
        <div> </div></div>What happened?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Street barricades? Someone is pissed off about street 
        barricades? Someone has WAY too much time of their hands.. I hear 
        volunteers are needed at the food bank..<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Happy Fall and Love to All,<br clear="none"></div><span>Janesta</span><br clear="none"></div>
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        <div>On Sat, <span>Sep</span> 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Carl 
        <span>Westberg</span> <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">idahovandal1@live.com</a>></span> 
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          <div dir="ltr">Scott's earlier post below.  Scott, I think you 
          have, by issuing an an apology for something you did not do, you  
          have thereby earned a complaint or insult credit.  A 
          <span>pre</span>-apology as it were.  If someone has the audacity 
          (as has been the case for years preceding the Homecoming parade) to 
          temporarily place street barricades on your lawn readying for the once 
          a year event, you have an unused credit available to fire away at any 
          and all city officials.  I, myself, have found barricades on or 
          near my lawn while preparations are made to block my street during the 
          once a year Ice Cream Social at the 1912 Center, and I've decided to 
          be mad as hell and not take it anymore.  Well, unless I decide 
          it's perfectly alright.  Which will probably be the case.<br clear="none"><pre><I just finished talking with a rep of the Streets Department.  They 
responded to Mr. Dredge's complaint and corrected the situation within 
an hour of its filing.>

<span>Ummm</span>...I didn't have complaint.  Do you mean Wayne's complaint?

<I think Mr. Dredge owes Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department an apology.>

OK - well since you're since you're convinced in your own mind that your opinion is always the correct even when you're unable to justify it based on either fact or logic, I guess you've painted me into a corner once again.  It's getting damn frustrating that you continue playing me like an air guitar and IMO you ought to be flagged for a foul on the viz for 'excessive celebration'.

I'll do what Tom never does.  Here it goes without further ado:

My apologies to Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department.

Sincerely,

--Scott Dredge
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