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<DIV>Not necessarily. It just depends on the reader’s frame of
reference. If you sent me a statement ending in “is,”or ending with a
preposition, I would look at the content and make a judgment based on the
content of the message and what I know about you. Possibly grammatical
syntax would come into play, but it wouldn’t be my first consideration. ee
cummings never used capital letters, Cormac McCarthy doesn’t use quotation
marks; yet I appreciate their writings far more than anything you and I have
written correctly as we go back and forth to each other. </DIV>
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<DIV>sue h </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 30, 2013 11:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=chasuk@gmail.com
href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com">Chasuk</A> ; <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Yes, there is a problem. It makes the author sound ignorant and lazy
in their writings. There isn't anything illegal with running your fingernails on
a chalkboard, or chewing tin foil. However, you will turn the reader and the
public off from your suggestions and ideas. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Donovan J. Arnold</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Chasuk
<chasuk@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Vision2020
<vision2020@moscow.com> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 30, 2013 11:13
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020]
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<DIV>There isn't anything wrong with ending a sentence with a prepostion. This
is a fallacy (apparently) promulgated by Alexander Pope.</DIV>
<DIV class=yiv2968378052gmail_quote>On Oct 1, 2013 1:33 PM, "Tom Hansen" <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank
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<DIV><SPAN>It was once deemed a sin black as soot<BR clear=none>To place at a
sentence's foot<BR clear=none>A mere preposition.<BR clear=none>"Absurd
superstition,<BR clear=none>Up with which," Churchill roared, "I'll not
put."</SPAN><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>
<DIV>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</DIV>
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<DIV>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.moscowcares.com/</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
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<DIV>"<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium">There's room at the top they are telling
you still</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium"> </SPAN></DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: medium">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
</SPAN><BR style="FONT-SIZE: medium" clear=none><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: medium">If you want to be like the folks on the
hill."</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><SPAN><BR clear=none></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><SPAN>- John Lennon<BR clear=none></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV><BR clear=none>On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Sue Hovey <<A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>> wrote:<BR
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<DIV>It is. <BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=none>On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Scott Dredge <<A
href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</A>>
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<DIV>It is what it is. Correct?<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none>-Scott</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=none>On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:38 PM, "Sue Hovey" <<A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>> wrote:<BR
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<DIV>Not I, Donovan. Ending a sentence with a preposition is a
hanging offense unless I do it, but this, well what is, is......</DIV>
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<DIV>Sue h</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan
Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 30, 2013 6:06 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil
Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and
apologies</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>" I'd say that whoever the mayor is."--Sunil Ramalingam</DIV>
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<DIV>I wholeheartedly disagree. It is improper to use the word "is" at
the end of sentence. This forum has really degenerated. Next thing you
know, people will be ending sentences with a preposition, and some
<SPAN><SPAN>disgruntled</SPAN></SPAN> laid off Idaho English teacher is
going to go on a rampage breaking people's fingers. </DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan J. Arnold</DIV>
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face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Sunil
Ramalingam <<A href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" shape=rect
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR
clear=none><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <BR
clear=none><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> vision 2020
<<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>> <BR
clear=none><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday,
September 28, 2013 12:10 PM<BR clear=none><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020]
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<DIV dir=ltr>Scott,<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>I'll speak only for
myself. If Wayne first contacted the street/road department, or
whichever department is directly responsible, and they failed to respond
or act, and he then emailed Nancy, then I sympathize with him. Based on
his email, I don't think he contacted the correct department, but
instead contacted Nancy instead. If that is correct, then I don't
sympathize with him. I think you should first take action that is most
likely to lead to the result you are seeking.<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none>That's the only thing influencing my views, not the
exaggerated heap of stuff below.<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>I do think
it's ludicrous to blame the mayor for this if you've failed to contact
the correct department, as you and Wayne did. I'd say that whoever the
mayor is. <BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Sunil<BR clear=none><BR
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<DIV
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<A href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</A><BR
clear=none>To: <A href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" shape=rect
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:janesta@gmail.com">janesta@gmail.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com">idahovandal1@live.com</A><BR
clear=none>Date: Sat, 28 <SPAN>Sep</SPAN> 2013 12:55:15 -0600<BR
clear=none>CC: <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" shape=rect
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR
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<DIV dir=ltr><Street barricades? Someone is pissed off about street
barricades?><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Well of course very few on
the viz would have any sympathy for street barricades being dumped /
stored on Wayne's private property. After all, he's a hated white
over privileged semi-conservative male and thus not part of the viz
<SPAN>borg</SPAN> group think majority. Now had he been an
American Indian complaining about this, most on the viz would have
expressed <SPAN>blowharded</SPAN> outrage similar to how they express
outrage to the temporary use of transporting <SPAN>Megaloads</SPAN> over
Highway 12 running through tribal land.<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none><Someone has WAY too much time of their hands><BR
clear=none><BR clear=none>Why so? Do you think it took Wayne an
overly large amount of time to lodge a complaint and post an email to
the viz? If so, I think you'd might also agree that someone else
who posts magnitudes more CRAP to the viz has WAY WAY WAY too much time
on their hands. :)<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>-Scott<BR
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Sat, 28 <SPAN>Sep</SPAN> 2013 11:33:35 -0700<BR clear=none>From: <A
href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:janesta@gmail.com">janesta@gmail.com</A><BR
clear=none>To: <A href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" shape=rect
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ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com">idahovandal1@live.com</A><BR
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<DIV>Once Upon A Time... <BR clear=none><BR clear=none>During the Great
Land Rush of the late 60's & 70's Moscow was known throughout
the Pacific Northwest, as "The City With A Smile"<BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>What happened?<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none></DIV>Street barricades? Someone is pissed off about street
barricades? Someone has WAY too much time of their hands.. I hear
volunteers are needed at the food bank..<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none></DIV>Happy Fall and Love to All,<BR
clear=none></DIV><SPAN>Janesta</SPAN><BR clear=none></DIV>
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<DIV>On Sat, <SPAN>Sep</SPAN> 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Carl
<SPAN>Westberg</SPAN> <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV dir=ltr>Scott's earlier post below. Scott, I think you
have, by issuing an an apology for something you did not do, you
have thereby earned a complaint or insult credit. A
<SPAN>pre</SPAN>-apology as it were. If someone has the audacity
(as has been the case for years preceding the Homecoming parade) to
temporarily place street barricades on your lawn readying for the once
a year event, you have an unused credit available to fire away at any
and all city officials. I, myself, have found barricades on or
near my lawn while preparations are made to block my street during the
once a year Ice Cream Social at the 1912 Center, and I've decided to
be mad as hell and not take it anymore. Well, unless I decide
it's perfectly alright. Which will probably be the case.<BR
clear=none><PRE><I just finished talking with a rep of the Streets Department. They
responded to Mr. Dredge's complaint and corrected the situation within
an hour of its filing.>
<SPAN>Ummm</SPAN>...I didn't have complaint. Do you mean Wayne's complaint?
<I think Mr. Dredge owes Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department an apology.>
OK - well since you're since you're convinced in your own mind that your opinion is always the correct even when you're unable to justify it based on either fact or logic, I guess you've painted me into a corner once again. It's getting damn frustrating that you continue playing me like an air guitar and IMO you ought to be flagged for a foul on the viz for 'excessive celebration'.
I'll do what Tom never does. Here it goes without further ado:
My apologies to Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department.
Sincerely,
--Scott Dredge
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