<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Saundra,<br><br></div>Although I agree with most of your post above, I disagree about many of Roger's emails. Food safety and nutrition are important issues nationally and locally. Roger's post and links are informative and helpful in gaining an understanding of these issues. The same with many of his posts about local informative plant and wildlife lectures and field trips. There is much to be learned by citizens in this area so they they may advise politicians and vote accordingly.<br>
<br></div>Photos of cats may be cute , and there are likely to be many that enjoy them, but they are not very informative or issue provoking, so do they belong on a forum? Let them be posted on a private website or sent to a private list-serve.<br>
<br></div>w.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Saundra Lund <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This thread is intriguing to me. I don’t give a rip about sports in general (although I’m hopelessly addicted to Olympic & X Games stuff, something my saint of a husband accepts & respects), but my understanding is that I’m in a minority, a fact my dh likes to remind me of </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> And, he appreciates my efforts at asking who’s playing, where’s the game, and what’s the score when he’s watching one sporting event or another. Recently, he’s had a few laughs at my expense because I’m a little behind the curve & hadn’t noticed that he’s added some football to the baseball viewing </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> Did I mention that I ask the obligatory questions just to be nice & do so without even glancing at the TV screen? Wait – the explanation is that I need new glasses </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If it’s true that locals really are completely uninterested in Vandal football – or in local sports in general – I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">OTOH, it seems pretty . . . uncomfortable to me that Tom is being singled out. Roger frequently passes along emails that are totally unrelated to V2020’s mission statement yet no one is chiding him. Nor would I want anyone to – I have a personal interest in food safety, and I’ve read a lot of interesting stuff in the things he’s passed along (Smithsonian & Berkeley Wellness to name just a couple) that are totally unrelated to the Viz’s mission statement.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My personal preference would be that no one post links without making an attempt at summarizing what might be found at the link (Scott’s recent “MNF” post with nothing more than a You Tube link is an example), and that no one post links that require membership to view (that includes Instagram), but that’s just my personal preference </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Basically, though, after years & years online, I have found that the Delete key is my friend </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Oh – and I think that not everything needs to be posted! There’s nothing wrong with writing to someone offlist, particularly when the post is nothing more than a “Quien es mas macho?” type.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If the shoe fits, feel free to wear it </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Saundra Lund<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Moscow, ID<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If a man aspires towards a rightous life, his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">~ Albert Einstein<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Art Deco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Vandal Wednesday . . .<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The D Willy's posts and non-issue related tout post remind me of the poor unfortunates I saw in my youth that earned by necessity a few cents an hour by walking around with signboards saying "Eat at Joe's" or now the pathetic unfortunates that earn a little by waving annoying cardboard signs at busy intersections that say "Get Your Hair Cut at Billy's Bring Your Own Bowl Barbershop." Pity, however, is out of place for those who do mercilessly act as touts for free imposing on others time and patience on what is designed to be a forum to provoke and continue issue oriented discussion.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I agree with Gary Crabtree's excellent suggestion: combine all the spam like, non-issue oriented posts into one weekly post with links. Those that are interested can be directed to your exhibitions. You can even start your own D Willy's, Farmer's Market photos of peoples backsides on Main Street, etc list-serve and service the great multitude of people who want to indulge in such but spare the rest of us at the same time.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">This is not a First Amendment issue. You are certainly free to post whatever and as much as you like, and if the past is any indication of your cognizance/consideration of other sentient being's opinions on this matter, you probably will. It is the wisdom of posting so much non-issue material that is in question. I would venture to guess that your posting of D Willy's ad-like material have lost that place more business than it has gained. Spam pisses people off.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">w.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">One photo a week (on Wedenesday evening) is your standard for ad nauseum, Wayne?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jeesh. Speak of a short attention span!<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tom Hansen<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Moscow, Idaho<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"<span style="font-size:13.5pt">There's room at the top they are telling you still </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill <br>
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- John Lennon<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target="_blank">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Without wishing to put a rash on anyone's balls, isn't the purpose of a forum to discuss issues and post information/graphic/news/etc that is issue oriented/generating or helpful?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Occasional entertaining, advertising, charity soliciting, etc posts are certainly acceptable, but I fail to see the substantive merit of posting photos <i>ad nauseum</i> of people sitting around drinking and eating at one particular place of business.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">w.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Gary Crabtree <<a href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Can't be spam, V2020 is now Mr. Hanson's personal web site. Be thankful he lets you post.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps you could start a web site for discussions that doesn't involve clogging up a public <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">forum with inanity.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">g<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target="_blank">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">D Willy's postings are starting to seem like spam.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Moscow Cares <<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com" target="_blank">moscowcares@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">. . . at D Willy's<br><br><br><br><br>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<br><br>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<br><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><br>
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