<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I'll be curious to see what he does with the money, if he gets any.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Ron Force <rforce2003@yahoo.com>; viz <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:57 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Zimm's lawyer to ask Florida to pay up to $300, 000 in legal costs<br> </font> </div>
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<div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-style:italic;"><It remains to be seen how Zimmerman's
legal fund defense, which collected several thousands of dollars for his
defense, will work now that some of those fees will be paid by the
state.</span>><br><br>This is an interesting twist. If a bunch of 2nd amendment supporters and worshippers of GZ have already donated money to his defense fund, then those dollars should already be counted toward cost 'reimbursement'. GZ's defense fund site is stale with the last entry being posted on June 5th.<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/">http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/</a><br><br><div><hr id="yiv8007364455stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:22:50 -0700<br>From: rforce2003@yahoo.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Zimm's lawyer to ask Florida to pay up to $300, 000 in legal costs<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Yes (USA Today):</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br></span></div><div></div><div><span style="font-style:italic;"> <span style="background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;font-size:12pt;">The motion to recoup legal costs would be based on a Florida statute that declares that a defendant who has been acquitted is not liable for costs associated with his or her case and that anything paid would be
returned, if approved by a judge or clerk, via the state's Judicial Administrative Commission.</span></span></div><div style="padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);"><span style="font-style:italic;">The Orlando Sentinel first reported that Zimmerman's legal team was preparing a motion to recoup some of their legal costs.<br></span></div><div style="padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);"><span style="font-style:italic;">The money Zimmerman's team hopes to recover includes only legal expenses such as hiring courtroom experts, court reporter fees for witness depositions and some travel
expenses.</span></div><div style="padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);"><span style="font-style:italic;">No Florida law allows attorneys to recover their fees from the state, Vincent said.</span></div><div style="padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);"><span style="font-style:italic;">In O'Mara's case, the fee would have been more than $1 million. He bills $400 an hour and worked 40 hours a week for 16 months on Zimmerman's case, Vincent said. Don West, a co-counsel on the case, bills $350 an hour.</span></div><div style="padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);"><span
style="font-style:italic;">"I believe to this day, they (O'Mara and West) have not been paid for any of their legal fees," Vincent said.</span></div><div style="padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);"><span style="font-style:italic;">O'Mara told The Orlando Sentinel that he will submit the costs to a judge for certification, but he anticipates that the Judicial Administrative Commission will challenge many of the expenses.</span></div><div style="padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Helvetica, Symbol, Arial, sans-serif;line-height:27px;background-color:rgb(241, 241, 241);"><span style="font-style:italic;">It remains to be seen how Zimmerman's legal fund defense, which collected several thousands of dollars for his defense, will work now that some of those fees will be paid by the state.
It's also unclear whether Zimmerman's attorney</span>s will be paid for their time in the future.</div><div>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA</div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);padding-left:5px;"> <div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Wayne Price <bear@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> viz 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:38 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Zimm's lawyer to ask Florida to pay up to $300, 000 in
legal costs<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv8007364455ecxy_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011"><div>Scott,<div><br></div><div>I have to assume (There I go again!) that while it would NOT cover the attorney fees, it would cover "costs". Those would be witness fees, transcript costs, and those types of fees. I'd actually like to see legislation that re-imburses ALL of the costs and fees, including lawyers fees IF a defendant in a criminal case is found NOT GUILTY in a criminal case.</div><div><br></div><div>REMOVING any questions of this, or any other particular case, I can see where a defendant who doesn't qualify for a Public Defender, could be actually be forced into
bankruptcy defending him or her self, and being found not guilty. In other words, being financially "punished" by a prosecutors office, even though they are both constitutionally innocent, and being found legally not guilty. Is this the kind of system we want in the US?</div><div><br></div><div>Wayne</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Aug 27, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:</div><br class="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium;"><div class="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011hmmessage" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;"><div dir="ltr">Do you know if attorney fees - had they been
incurred -
would be eligible for reimbursement? The article is very vague and lists 'Zimmerman will rely on state law that allows a defendant who has been found not guilty to be reimbursed for costs associated with a case.'<br><br>And Wayne asking why this isn't uniform across all states and being charged to the AG's cost center is a good question.<br><br><div><hr id="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011stopSpelling">CC:<span class="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>From:<span class="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Zimm's lawyer to ask Florida to pay up to $300, 000 in legal costs<br>Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:18:33
-0700<br>To:<span class="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br><br><div>The "reimbursement" is not for attorney costs, as the attorneys (as hig-priced as they my be), donated their time and efforts<span class="yiv8007364455ecxyiv1443759011Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>pro bono. </i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div>The reimbursement is for costs related to witness availability and other defense material costs incurred by the defendant. <br><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow,
Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Scott Dredge <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr">In Florida can you really put up a high priced defense and then get reimbursed when acquitted? Sounds like a cash cow for Florida defense lawyers.<br><br>'Zimmerman, who
is white and Hispanic, was found not
guilty of murder and manslaughter on July 13 in Florida after a racially charged trial in the shooting of Martin, a 17-year-old African-American, in February 2012. Thousands of people demonstrated across the United States after the verdict.'<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-lawyer-ask-florida-pay-300-000-legal-042625962.html">http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-lawyer-ask-florida-pay-300-000-legal-042625962.html</a><br><br><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><span>=======================================================</span><br><span>List services made available by First Step Internet,</span><br><span>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.</span><br><span> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
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