<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I said it was closer to hunting than self defense. It was. And Martin was a kid; Zimmerman was not. And Martin is dead. Maybe that is why no one is blaming him. </div><div><br></div><div>Did Martin make a mistake? Apparently -- but really we don't know that any more than we know why Zimmerman did what he did. But Martin paid a hefty price for his mistake. Zimmerman did not. That's why folks are upset.</div><div><br>On Aug 24, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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      That's the narrative I'm talking about.  It completely ignores
      Trayvon Martin's own actions that helped lead to his death and it
      exaggerates George Zimmerman's actions.  Following someone down a
      sidewalk is not the same as "hunting" a person.  We have exactly
      zero evidence that Zimmerman followed Martin in order to kill
      him.  <br>
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      But have fun with the narrative.  If you happen across Zimmerman,
      get in a few licks for the rest of us.<br>
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      Paul <br>
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      On 08/24/2013 05:44 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:<br>
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      <div>Goes against the narrative? The guy stalked a kid, against
        the advice of a 911 operator, and ended up killing him. </div>
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      <div>Honestly, I just don't get it. Stalking and shooting is a lot
        closer to hunting than self-defense. Why is that so difficult
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        On Aug 24, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
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            Well, he and his family do get death threats regularly:
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            And there is a $10,000 bounty put on Zimmerman for his
            capture by the New Black Panther Party:
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            So maybe he is in need of a good home-defense weapon.<br>
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            Of course, progressives are not allowed to feel bad about
            that because it goes against the narrative.  Pity, one could
            almost feel bad for a guy who is reviled on the national
            stage for protecting himself from getting his ass beat,
            whether or not it was his own stupidity that got him there. 
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            Oh, well.  It's much easier to think of him as a monster.  <br>
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            Paul<br>
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