<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>So, the undocumented workers don't want citizenship, huh?</div><div><br></div><div>How about <b>THIS</b>?</div><div><br></div><div>Courtesy of Buzzfeed at:</div><div><br></div><div>(far too many high-resolution photos to post here. So, check 'em out)</div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "><a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/17-powerful-images-of-dreamers-blocking-a-bus-and-trying-to">http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/17-powerful-images-of-dreamers-blocking-a-bus-and-trying-to</a></span><br><br><h1 id="post-title" style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 36px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-weight: normal; line-height: 38px; font-family: ProximaNovaSemibold, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); clear: left; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">17 Powerful Images Of “Dreamers” Blocking A Bus To Stop The Deportation Of Undocumented Immigrants</h1><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div dir="ltr">True enough, a 'path to citizenship' need to have a path leading to citizenship otherwise it's just a sound bite used for political points and has no real teeth to it.<br><br>It's not really my 'position', it's more my 'understanding' (or maybe lack thereof) regarding citizenship and immigration laws. AFAIK, children born on US soil to undocumented parents are US citizens. I don't take issue with this, it's specified by the 14th amendment. Anyone who does take issue with it can file a lawsuit and have the Supreme Court widen or narrow the interpretation based upon the ideological makeup of the court.<br><br>Anyone not born a US citizen would need to follow the proper legal process in or order to become a naturalized US citizen if they wanted US citizenship. There's no question that US immigration law is convoluted, complicated, and time consuming. But anyone not following the process, won't obtain citizenship except maybe in extreme circumstances.<br><br>And as screwed up as immigration policy is presently, the issue on the table now seems to be very focused on simply / difficultly getting those who are 'undocumented' to be 'documented'. And then once documented, they are in the system and from there they can start the long and arduous path towards citizenship if they have the will, stamina, stomach, finances, support, etc. to do so.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:32:03 -0700<br>From: <a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Immigration Reform: Path to citizenship won't be easy<br>To: <a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div> </div><span><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><div><span style="color:black;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10pt;">In order to
call something "The Path to Citizenship" it must actually be a path
that leads to citizenship. </span></div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><div><span><span style="color:black;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10pt;">If I understand the
position of Scott Dredge correctly, he believes that the only way a hard
working and contributing Mexican to the US economy can be a citizen in the
land his ancestors have occupied for thousands of years, is by appealing to the
United States Government and waiting 20 to 30 years. This even though he or she
is not already a citizen only because the United States Government for two
hundred years, violated its own Constitution and treaties, violated
international law, and ignored federal law, to acquire their ancestral lands
and resources through the use of illegal violence of war, rape, murder, and
physical force to leave their lands. On the other hand, if you are
white, and were simply born in the USA,
your path to citizenship was a slide down your mother's birth canal, you are
deemed worthy of US
citizenship, even if all you have ever down was collect food stamps, welfare
and never worked a day in your life. </span></span></div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
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</font></div><div><span><span style="color:black;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10pt;">Sounds likes like a
twisted logic to me. </span></span></div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
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</font></div><div><span><span style="color:black;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10pt;">Donovan J. Arnold</span></span></div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div></span><div><br> </div> <div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> viz <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 18, 2013 4:07 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Vision2020] Immigration Reform: Path to citizenship won't be easy<br> </font> </div> <div class="ecxy_msg_container"><br><div id="ecxyiv7708512337">
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<div><div dir="ltr">The Path to Citizenship doesn't address the root of the problem which is how do you force citizenship on people who don't want it? It's almost as difficult as trying force democracy on the Iraqis.<br><br><a href="http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20130527/immigration-reform-path-to-citizenship-wont-be-easy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20130527/immigration-reform-path-to-citizenship-wont-be-easy</a><br><br>"It's certainly not a bill that we would have written ourselves,'' said
Laura Vazquez, a legislative analyst at the National Council of La Raza,
who nevertheless said it "makes significant improvements to our broken
immigration system. "<br><br>"The ultimate goal of the legislation we believe is to get as many
people to move from undocumented status into a path to citizenship,''
Vazquez said. "That has to be met by having a process that is real and
accessible.''<br><br><br> </div></div>
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