<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div> </div><span><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">My objection to Libertarianism is that it strips the people of
the right to determine their own form of government and the society they wish to
live in. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It removes using the government
as a means to solve a problem when it may at times be the best or least costly solution.
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</font></div></span><div></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:07 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Are you REALLY a libertarian?<br> </font> </div> <div
class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2414449501"><div><div>My opposition to libertarianism stems from my adherence to social contract theory. We agree to uphold the laws of a particular society in exchange for security. And vice versa: no security, no adherence to the law. </div><div><br></div><div>Social programs are justified from a purely pragmatic point of view. Thus, libertarianism is false.</div><div><br>On Aug 22, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I agree with this. Let's keep the brand name clean, so it doesn't get taken over like the original Tea Party did.<br><br>I do see a lot of pushback to
Libertarianism by both Democrats and Republicans, which makes me think they're on the right track.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:19
PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Vision2020] Are you REALLY a libertarian?<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv2414449501y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2414449501"><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/08/30/773243/-Top-10-Signs-You-Might-Not-Be-A-Libertarian?detail=facebook#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/08/30/773243/-Top-10-Signs-You-Might-Not-Be-A-Libertarian?detail=facebook#</a><br>
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