<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>If you can restrict speech, you can restrict gun sales. And you can restrict speech without doing damage to the constitution. Joe</div><div><br>On Aug 22, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I recommend tying us all to our beds 24 hours a day and letting our basic needs be handled by state-run robots. That should solve the problem. <br><br>We should at least look at other alternatives before trying to neuter the Constitution one more time.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>>;
Moscow Vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; Jeanne McHale <<a href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</a>>; Fritz Knorr <<a href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:22 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] How many more times . . .<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7149770006"><div dir="ltr">You are not a policy wonk, Paul. You are a scientist of sorts. Who cares WHY these nut jobs do what they do. The point is to try to prevent it. You can do that by figuring out "why" perhaps in some billions years. But there might be other ways to prevent disaster without all that research and knowledge.<br>
</div><div class="yiv7149770006gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv7149770006gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv7149770006gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Do you think it was the assault rifle that drove this man to do what he did, and without it he wouldn't have done anything at all?<br>
<br>That's a serious question.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"><div class="yiv7149770006im"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; Jeanne McHale <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</a>>; Fritz Knorr <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</a>>
<br> </div><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:10 PM<div><div class="yiv7149770006h5"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] How many more times . . .<br>
</div></div></font> </div><div><div class="yiv7149770006h5"> <div><br><div><div><div>Or we could avoid giving them assault rifles, thus preventing "<span style="font-size:12pt;">people like this from doing what they are doing".</span></div>
<div><font face="times new roman, new york, times, serif"><span style="font-size:16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="times new roman, new york, times, serif"><span style="font-size:16px;">'Nuff said.<br></span></font><br>
<div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
<div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho </div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span><br>
</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">We could also try to figure out why people like this are doing what they are doing and come up with a solution ASAP.<br>
<br>Besides, why single out assault rifles? According to this article (<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/murders-shootings-and-gun-sales-per-day_n_2488664.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/murders-shootings-and-gun-sales-per-day_n_2488664.html</a>), if today was an average day then there were 30 gun-related murders, 162 people wounded by firearms, and 53 suicides involving a firearm. Most of them involving handguns. Why do those numbers not instill the same passion that assault rifles do?<br>
<br>Paul<br><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; Jeanne McHale <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</a>>; Fritz Knorr <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:53 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] How many more times . . .<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div>
<div><div>It's quite simple (and humane), Mr. Rumelhart.</div><div><br></div><div>We can either . . .</div><div><br></div><div>- Terminate the sale of assault rifles, or</div><div><br></div><div>- Continue selling assault rifles and hope nobody gets hurt or killed . . . next time.<br>
<br><div>Now, Mr. Rumelhart, which
of these two options is more proactive and humane than the other?</div><div><br></div><div>Sidebar: I understand that a group has reserved the County Fairgrounds this weekend so they can show-off and let others play with their . . . guns.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
<div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div></div><div><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Where did that come from, Mr. Hansen?<br><br>Paul<br><div><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">
<div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; Jeanne McHale <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</a>>; Fritz Knorr <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:14 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] How many more times . . .<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div>
<div><div>Why be proactive and control the sale of assault rifles, when all we really need to do is to bury the bodies of the innocents, right Mr. Rumelhart?<br><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div>
<br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants
on)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be
like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;">Sounds like a disturbed individual. I'm glad no one was hurt.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div>
<div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Jeanne McHale <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</a>>; Fritz Knorr <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Vision2020] How many more times . .
.<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div><span>“'I don’t know how this could happen at this school,' Zamora said. 'There’s so much security.'"</span></div><div><br></div><div>Courtesy of Time at:</div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://nation.time.com/2013/08/20/official-suspect-in-custody-at-georgia-school/print/">http://nation.time.com/2013/08/20/official-suspect-in-custody-at-georgia-school/print/</a></span></div>
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20-Year-Old Charged in Ga. School Shooting</h1></div><div><span style="text-align:left;"><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align:left;">(DECATUR, Ga.) — A man with an assault rifle and other weapons exchanged gunfire with officers Tuesday at an Atlanta-area elementary school before surrendering, a police chief said, with dramatic overhead television footage capturing the young students racing out of the building, being escorted by teachers and police to safety. No one was injured.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><span style="text-align:left;"><div>Just a week into the new school year, more than 800 students in pre-kindergarten to fifth grade were evacuated from Ronald E. McNair Discovery
Learning Academy in
Decatur, a few miles east of Atlanta. They sat outside along a fence in a field for a time until school buses came to take them to their waiting parents and other relatives at a nearby Wal-Mart.</div><div><span><br></span></div>
<div><span>When the first bus arrived about three hours after the shooting, cheers erupted in the store parking lot from relieved relatives, several of them sobbing.</span></div><div><div style="margin:1em 0px;"><span>The suspect, identified later as 20-year-old Michael Brandon Hill, fired at least a half-dozen shots from the rif</span></div></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>