<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Sunil -</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">I totally oppose "extraordinary rendition" as defined by your link/source:</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">"</span><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Beginning in the early 1990s and continuing to this day, the Central Intelligence Agency, together with other U.S. government agencies, has utilized an intelligence-gathering program involving the transfer of foreign nationals suspected of involvement in terrorism to detention and interrogation in countries where -- in the CIA's view -- federal and international legal safeguards do not apply. Suspects are detained and interrogated either by U.S. personnel at U.S.-run detention facilities outside U.S. sovereign territory or, alternatively, are handed over to the custody of foreign agents for interrogation. In both instances, interrogation methods are employed that do not comport with federal and internationally recognized standards. This program is commonly known as 'extraordinary rendition.'"</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">By simply transferring control of a prisoner to a third-party nation where certain restrictions do not apply, so that techniques (in violation of the Geneva Convention) may be applied, DOES NOT release those U.S. government agencies from responsibilities associated with those techniques.<br></span><br><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "> </div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br>On Aug 18, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div>
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<div dir="ltr">Renditions <br><br><a href="http://www.aclu.org/national-security/fact-sheet-extraordinary-rendition">http://www.aclu.org/national-security/fact-sheet-extraordinary-rendition</a><br><br>continue under Obama, as they did with Bill Clinton and Bush II:<br><br><a href="http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-01/world/36323571_1_obama-administration-interrogation-drone-strikes">http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-01/world/36323571_1_obama-administration-interrogation-drone-strikes</a><br><br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies<br>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 08:54:14 -0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br><br><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div style="">Sunil inquires:</div><div style=""><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Do you support the following:</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------------------------</span><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><br><b>-Using drones to kill children, civilians, US citizens without due process;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I totally, and without hesitation or qualification, oppose the use of drones "to kill children, civilians, US citizens", as I hope everybody does.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I do, however, support the use of drones as a means of </span><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">reconnaissance and use as a defensive weapon to ensure the security and safety of our troops.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-Allowing the Bush Administration torturers to escape prosecution;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I seriously believe in and support proseution of those torturers to the maximum extent allowable. There is a special place in Hell for those who apply the technique of water-boarding.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-Instead prosecuting and imprisoning people who reveal information about that torture regime;</b></span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The individuals that publicly expose those torturers, and the methods they apply (in violation of the Geneva Convention), should be applauded (NOT prosecuted).</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>-the Patriot Act;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As I am not totally knowledgable of the Patriot Act, I am unqualiied to evaluate it in its entirety. Although, I do TOTALLY OPPOSE warrantless searches.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-rendition;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Huh?</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-continuing and enlarging the Bush programs to illegally spy on citizens;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You would have to define "spy". </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If, by "spy", you mean warrantless wiretapping of personal communication devices and installing videotaping equipment on private property, i am in total opposition.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If, by "spy", you mean law enforcement personnel following a person around town or across the nation, my only question of them would be, "What hotels do you recommend?"</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-lying to the public about those programs</b></span><br><br>I oppose lying, Sunil</div><div><br></div><div>--------------------------------------<br><br><div style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style=""><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style=""> </div><div style=""><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""><br></span></font></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon</span></font></div></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div><div><br></div></div><div style=""><br>On Aug 18, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote style="">Do you support the following:<br><br>-Using drones to kill children, civilians, US citizens without due process;<br>-Allowing the Bush Administration torturers to escape prosecution;<br>-Instead prosecuting and imprisoning people who reveal information about that torture regime;<br>-the Patriot Act;<br>-rendition;<br>-continuing and enlarging the Bush programs to illegally spy on citizens;<br>-lying to the public about those programs</blockquote></div></div></div> </div>
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