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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Renditions <br><br>http://www.aclu.org/national-security/fact-sheet-extraordinary-rendition<br><br>continue under Obama, as they did with Bill Clinton and Bush II:<br><br>http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-01/world/36323571_1_obama-administration-interrogation-drone-strikes<br><br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>From: thansen@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies<br>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 08:54:14 -0700<br>To: sunilramalingam@hotmail.com<br><br><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div style="">Sunil inquires:</div><div style=""><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Do you support the following:</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------------------------</span><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><br><b>-Using drones to kill children, civilians, US citizens without due process;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I totally, and without hesitation or qualification, oppose the use of drones "to kill children, civilians, US citizens", as I hope everybody does.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I do, however, support the use of drones as a means of </span><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">reconnaissance and use as a defensive weapon to ensure the security and safety of our troops.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-Allowing the Bush Administration torturers to escape prosecution;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I seriously believe in and support proseution of those torturers to the maximum extent allowable. There is a special place in Hell for those who apply the technique of water-boarding.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-Instead prosecuting and imprisoning people who reveal information about that torture regime;</b></span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The individuals that publicly expose those torturers, and the methods they apply (in violation of the Geneva Convention), should be applauded (NOT prosecuted).</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>-the Patriot Act;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As I am not totally knowledgable of the Patriot Act, I am unqualiied to evaluate it in its entirety. Although, I do TOTALLY OPPOSE warrantless searches.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-rendition;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Huh?</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-continuing and enlarging the Bush programs to illegally spy on citizens;</b></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You would have to define "spy". </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If, by "spy", you mean warrantless wiretapping of personal communication devices and installing videotaping equipment on private property, i am in total opposition.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">If, by "spy", you mean law enforcement personnel following a person around town or across the nation, my only question of them would be, "What hotels do you recommend?"</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="">--------------------</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><b>-lying to the public about those programs</b></span><br><br>I oppose lying, Sunil</div><div><br></div><div>--------------------------------------<br><br><div style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style=""><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style=""> </div><div style=""><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""><br></span></font></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon</span></font></div></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""> </span></font></div><div><div><br></div></div><div style=""><br>On Aug 18, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote style="">Do you support the following:<br><br>-Using drones to kill children, civilians, US citizens without due process;<br>-Allowing the Bush Administration torturers to escape prosecution;<br>-Instead prosecuting and imprisoning people who reveal information about that torture regime;<br>-the Patriot Act;<br>-rendition;<br>-continuing and enlarging the Bush programs to illegally spy on citizens;<br>-lying to the public about those programs</blockquote></div></div></div> </div></body>
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