<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>So, you are suggesting . . .</div><div><br></div><div>Instead of voting for Biden or Clinton, someone that may go through our sock drawers, we should vote for Rand Paul (or whoever becomes the GOP presidential candidate), someone that will ensure that we cannot afford socks.<br><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 17, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div dir="ltr">My suggestion, for people who call themselves 'Progressives' or 'Liberals' or who oppose what both Bush and Obama, indeed both parties are doing, is to stop voting for politicians who support these measures. For the next election, certainly this includes both Biden and H. Clinton. Stop buying into the rationalization that we have to vote for them for the sake of Supreme Court nominees, or whatever else is thrown at us. Vote for one of the small parties. Maybe when the Ds see that they can't count on our support while they support and carry out these policies, they will start to change. Right now there is no pressure to change, only to continue what Bush (and with Rendition, Clinton) started or continued.<br><br>Or come to terms with your support of empire, Wall Street bailouts, illegal spying, the murder of citizens and non-citizens with drones, secret bombings etc. Votes for Obama, Biden, H. Clinton certainly means support for all those policies. <br><br>Please demonstrate for me, if you can, that I'm wrong. I don't think you can, since it's quite clear the politicians I named above (along with most Republicans, though some would not support the Wall Street bailouts) all support those policies.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>From: <a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">moscowcares@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies<br>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:38:04 -0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br><br><div>And your suggestion is . . . ?<br><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style=""><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>
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<div dir="ltr">Only if we are partisan and blind to the consequences of his actions. <br><br>He has normalized torture, rendition, illegal killing of citizens...<br><br>We can't do better than this?<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies<br>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:33:41 -0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br><br><div>As much as I partially agree with you, Sunil . . .</div><div><br></div><div>He is still the best game in town.</div><div><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style=""><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>
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<div dir="ltr">Obama promised the most transparent administration ever, but has instead gone after leaks and whistleblowers with more prosecutions than any - or is it all put together - previous administrations. He's against leaks except when it suits him politically; then leaks are okay.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:50:57 -0400<br>From: <a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies<br><br><div dir="ltr">
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<h1>GPS Tracking and Secret Policies</h1>
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This week brought fresh revelations about the National Security Agency’s
sloppy and invasive collection of phone data on Americans and others,
as reported first by The Washington Post. In another realm of
surveillance — the government’s broad use of location tracking devices —
the Justice Department was in federal court on Thursday defending its
refusal to release memos containing information about its policies
governing the use of GPS and other potentially invasive technologies.
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The American Civil Liberties Union had brought the lawsuit to demand
that the department make the memos public. The documents were prepared
after a 2012 Supreme Court ruling, United States v. Jones, which held
that placement of a hidden tracking device on a suspect’s car
constitutes a “search” under the Fourth Amendment. <br>
That case left lots of questions unanswered, including whether GPS
tracking always requires a warrant based on probable cause, and how the
Fourth Amendment applies to tracking someone 24/7 with cellphone
location technology. After the decision was released, the F.B.I.’s
general counsel, Andrew Weissmann, mentioned in a public talk that the
government was issuing memos containing official guidance for federal
agents and prosecutors on when they can use tracking technology and how
the Jones decision applies to other types of techniques, beyond GPS.
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The public has a right to know the government’s policies on these
matters. There is very good reason to be concerned about the
government’s interpretation of its police powers, especially given the
Obama administration’s insensitivity to privacy in its mass collection
of phone data in the national security sphere. <br>
When the A.C.L.U. filed a request for the memos under the Freedom of
Information Act, the Justice Department responded by handing over copies
with the text nearly entirely blanked out, prompting the lawsuit. The
Justice Department claims that the memos were prepared anticipating
litigation and are exempt from disclosure because they are a lawyer’s
work product. But to the extent Mr. Weissmann accurately represented the
memos, they also amount to statements of official policy, not merely
exchanges by lawyers on legal theories, which the work-product exception
is meant to protect. <br>
Our strong hunch is that there is material in the memos that can and
should be revealed without harm to law enforcement or the appropriate
discussion of confidential legal strategies. At Thursday’s hearing,
Judge William Pauley III said he would personally review the documents
before deciding whether they should be released. <br>
It is distressing that the administration, which claims to welcome a
debate over the government’s surveillance practices, time and again
refuses to be transparent about those practices. Instead of awaiting a
court order, the administration should release the tracking memos on its
own. <br><br clear="all"></div><br>-- <br>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<br><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target="_blank">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a><br><br><img src="https://a.gfx.ms/i_safe.gif"><br>
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