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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I can easily show my ancestors immigration papers. They went through the proper channels. They came through legal border crossings. The filed legal paperwork. They were granted legal United States citizenship. We have MANY paths to legal citizenship in the United States. We have MANY people here legally who are documented through Visa, Green Cards, Birth Certificates, etc.<br><br>And then we have a bunch of people who are US soil who so called 'undocumented workers'. If that's a problem, then solution would be to offer them a piece of paper to fill out (or have them fill out an online application) so that they then can receive a piece of plastic with some writing, raised numbers & letters, and magnetic strip on it that allows them to be 'card carrying documented workers' and then they can take it from there to get Green Cards and Citizenship.<br><br>It won't happen. It won't happen because the United States has become awash with people who are too dysfunctional to follow basic tried and true rules of our system that have worked for told and untold millions upon millions upon millions of immigrants who have come to this country from all of the world and have received US Citizenship.<br><br>It won't happen because it's just political football to kick around to get votes but to never actually make any changes that would solve any 'perceived' problems.<br><br>It won't happen because there are many markets in the United States for slave laborers and there are many slave laborers more than willing to work for peanuts to carry out that slave work.<br><br>It won't happen because many of the so called 'undocumented workers' want no part of being 'documented'.<br><br>Paths to Citizenship are already available for just about anyone actually wants to get up off of their asses and walk down any of those paths. And if they don't want to get up of of their asses, then they shouldn't be forced to do so in my humble opinion.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 20:13:41 -0700<br>From: keim153@gmail.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: [Vision2020] Fwd: Path to Citizenship<br><br><br><br><br>Just for fun I will point out the obvious by carrying Rose's example to absurdity: The native Americans had poorer imigration policies then us And look what happened to them!<br><br>On Saturday, August 17, 2013, Rosemary Huskey <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Wayne,<br>><br>> <br>><br>> How do you feel about the old British laws that allowed children to be hung for stealing a loaf of bread?<br>><br>> Do you love the law, or do you love justice? Never mind, I think I know. As for the word you and your Faux News buddies are so fond of using, I’m thinking that you probably can’t show your ancestors immigration papers – and neither can I. So, we are all aliens together, aren’t we? Unless, of course, you are a member of the Nez Perce Nation – and we both know you aren’t. <br>
><br>> <br>><br>> Rose Huskey<br>><br>> <br>><br>> <br>><br>> From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] On Behalf Of Wayne Price<br>
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 6:18 PM<br>> To: Scott Dredge<br>> Cc: viz<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Path to Citizenship<br>><br>> <br>><br>> Scott,<br>><br>> <br>><br>> I'll admit that I'm a bit dogmatic on the subject and want the law, as it currently exists enforced, THEN we can talk about reform. How can we possibly welcome anyone to be a new citizen when the very very first act they commit upon entry into the US is a crime?<br>
><br>> <br>><br>> Section 1325 in Title 8 of the United States Code, "Improper entry of alien", provides for a fine, imprisonment, or both for any immigrant who:<br>><br>> 1. enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration agents, or<br>
><br>> 2. eludes examination or inspection by immigration agents, or<br>><br>> 3. attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact.<br>
><br>> <br>><br>> <br>><br>> Wayne<br>><br>> <br>><br>> <br>><br>> <br>><br>> <br>><br>> On Aug 17, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:<br>><br>> Tom wrote:<br>
> - Immigration laws allowing a path to citizenship for current undocumented workers<br>><br>> This one is very complicated given at least a triple negative whammy to Republicans.<br>> 1) Business owners who have Republicans in their back pockets want a steady stream of lower than minimum wage workers<br>
> 2) Most of these undocumented workers are non-white and thus upon receiving citizenship will most likely vote against Republicans<br>> 3) Republican constituency is heavily against anyone of a different color than 'red-necked' having full rights of citizenship and voting<br>
><br>> For Democrats, the strategy is pretty straight forward<br>> 1) Give undocumented workers citizenship<br>> 2) Get them to the polls<br>><br>> My simple solution for undocumented workers is:<br>> 1) Document them<br>
> 2) Lead them to the USCIS but don't force them to drink<br>><br>> The United State has a long, rich history of immigration and my prediction is that 'status quo' will prevail.<br>><br>> =======================================================<br>
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