<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I don't see where you are coming from, Keely. You are responding to this paragraph, right?<br><br>"Poor decisions were made by both Zimmerman and Martin. Zimmerman's
decisions may have been ill considered (following on foot if that is in
fact what he did) but legal. Martin's decision to leap out of the bushes
and assault a stranger instead of simply continuing on the seventy yard
to his fathers girlfriends home was not."<br><br>Where is the intellectual dishonesty? Why do you think this analysis is "stupid"?<br><br>Someone leaving their vehicle and walking down a sidewalk behind someone else is not, in fact, illegal. Neither is following him in an SUV while talking to the police. It was probably not a brilliant idea on Zimmerman's part, but not illegal. If Zimmerman's account is correct, Martin confronted him, knocked him to the ground with a punch to the nose, and continued to beat his head into the pavement for about a minute. We don't know for certain, of course, that what Zimmerman says is true, but it seems to be supported by the evidence. He had a broken nose, cuts on the back of his head, and bruises on his face. When the police played an audio recording of the screams during the event for Martin's father, he was asked if he thought it was his son screaming. He replied
"no". When they played the recording for Zimmerman's father, he replied that he thought it was his son and that he sounded like he was screaming for his life.<br><br>Confronting someone and knocking him to the ground and then pummeling him with blows crosses a definite line. Zimmerman claims that he was trying to move back off the concrete when Martin saw his gun. He then allegedly told Zimmerman that he was "going to die tonight". That's when he shot him.<br><br>As I said before, it appears that the "white guy stalks and then guns down a defenseless black child" meme doesn't fit this case. Martin could have avoided a confrontation simply by continuing to walk home to his dad's girlfriend's place. I agree with the jury that there was no evidence for second degree murder, certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt.<br><br>Just forget how the media wants to portray this event, and think about this possible
scenario:<br><br>Zimmerman is tired of a spate of recent burglaries in his community, and wants to do something about it. He joins the local neighborhood watch. He does what you should do on the neighborhood watch, he phones anything he sees as suspicious in to the police.<br><br>Now comes the night in question. He sees a teenager walking through the neighborhood in the rain in the dark wearing black clothes and a black hoodie that covers his face. He does what he has always done at this point, he calls it in. He follows him to keep tabs on where he is until the police get there. When they ask him his location, he can't tell them precisely. Maybe because it's dark and rainy outside and he hasn't been paying attention to his exact location as he tries to keep him in sight. So he gets out of his SUV, walks down the block until he can see a street sign, and then starts to walk back to his vehicle. He is
then confronted by Martin, a confrontation he tries to avoid, and he gets attacked. He's on the ground, Martin is straddling him, punching him in the face and causing his head to get smashed into the sidewalk. Zimmerman, still trying to get away rather than fight, tries to scooch back to the grass so that his head isn't getting smashed into the concrete anymore. In doing so, his clothes get disheveled and his concealed weapon shows. Martin threatens his life, and Zimmerman (probably fearing that he's going to go for his gun) shoots him.<br><br>The police arrive, do a little investigating, and determine that there is no case for further charges that they think could stick, so they let him go. The resulting media frenzy ensues, and he now has a $10,000 reward on his life courtesy of the New Black Panthers. Spike Lee, thinking he knew where he was staying, tweets his location only to send the elderly couple that lived
there fleeing for their lives. Zimmerman is in hiding, can't go to work, and fears for his life on a daily basis. The police, shamed in public by basically everyone, bring charges after all. People all across the country think he stalked the poor kid and shot him, when he was just trying to find out exactly where he was. <br><br>Now he is acquitted at trial, and people still think he's some kind of wannabee serial killer of small black children or something. People like Saundra call him a "monster". Rallies are held around the country, some of them quite violent.<br><br>This is Zimmerman's story, which is routinely tossed aside by those who wish to follow the media's take on things. From my perspective, it's at least as plausible as the story of him being racially motivated to gun that kid down. It appears to be consistent with the evidence. It's a story that comes directly from the only living
witness to the event.<br><br>Do I know what happened, exactly, that night? No, I don't. But neither does anyone else save Zimmerman himself. <br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Keely Emerine-Mix <siyocreo@live.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith@gmail.com>; Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "vision2020@moscow.com" <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:51 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020]
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<div><div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:10pt;" face="Tahoma" size="2">I'm going to briefly abandon my attempts to civil and thoughtful for a moment and say, Gary, the only thing that I can muster in regard to your final paragraph:<br><br>That's the most bizarre, facile, intellectually dishonest and frankly stupid analysis of this whole travesty I've ever heard. <br><br>Keely<br id="yiv8993025473FontBreak"></font><br><br><br>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br><br><br><div><hr id="yiv8993025473stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:51:51 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 85, Issue 95<br>From: moscowlocksmith@gmail.com<br>To: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>CC: lfalen@turbonet.com; vision2020@moscow.com; siyocreo@live.com<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>I very strongly suspect that the likelihood of being jumped and beaten by one of the local seventeen year <span>olds</span> would be vanishingly small to the point that to
bet otherwise would be to throw away cash.</div>
<div> </div><div>I have to imagine that it's fun for some to endlessly bang away at the "stalked the poor child" narrative but, an equally valid perspective would be that Zimmerman was performing a public service to his community by being involved in a neighborhood watch program and was in no way attempting to be surreptitious or covert in his attention to Martin's presence.</div>
<div> </div><div>Poor decisions were made by both Zimmerman and Martin. Zimmerman's decisions may have been ill considered (following on foot if that is in fact what he did) but legal. Martin's decision to leap out of the bushes and assault a stranger instead of simply continuing on the seventy yard to his fathers girlfriends home was not.</div>
<div> </div><div> </div><div>g</div></div><div class="yiv8993025473ecxgmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv8993025473ecxgmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Joe Campbell <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv8993025473ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div>The best point to make is not that Zimmerman was racist, or that the jurors were racist. There is no basis for either assertion.</div>
<div><br></div><div>That doesn't mean the case isn't symptomatic of a kind of persistent institutionalized racism. You say first reports were that Zimmerman attacked an unarmed kid. But that report turned out to be false.</div>
<div><br></div><div>How is it false? He was 17 and unarmed. Say what you want but Zimmerman stalked then shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old boy who was merely walking around his own neighborhood. How could you not feel outrage? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Why don't you drive around the streets of Moscow and follow all the 17-year-old kids you see. See what happens. There seems to be a kind of wreckless negligence on the part of Zimmerman, if nothing else.</div>
<div><br>On Jul 17, 2013, at 6:27 PM, lfalen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote><div><div dir="LTR"><div dir="LTR">
<br><div>Just a few comments.</div><div>From the first reports out it appeared that Zimmerman had unjustly attacked and unarmed kid. A picture was shown of a 12 year old Trayvon. This report turned out to be false. Ziommerman is not a monster or a saint. He was a mentor for black kids and he took a black girl to the prom. He obviously is not a racist. This was an unfortunate event where both have some responsibility. We are a nation of laws. On the bases of the evidence, the jury had no choice but to acquit. There have been many cases where whites has have killed blacks due to racial hatred and they should have been executed for it. Just two example are Emmett Till and the three Civil Rights workers. This case is entirely different.</div>
<div>Roger</div><br><blockquote style="padding-left:1em;font-family:tahoma, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;" dir="LTR"><hr size="1">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: "Paul Rumelhart" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: "Saundra Lund" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>><br>
Cc: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>, "Keely Emerine-Mix" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:siyocreo@live.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:siyocreo@live.com">siyocreo@live.com</a>><br>Date: 07/15/13 18:29<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 85, Issue 95<br><br>
<div>A few points.<br><br>On 07/15/2013 05:36 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:<br> </div>
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<div><div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">No, Paul – <b>you</b> are missing the point. Make as many excuses about Zimmerman’s “recklessness” as you want, but that doesn’t change the <b>fact</b> that an innocent child who was doing <b>nothing wrong</b> is now dead because <b>he</b> (Trayvon) decided to exercise <b>his</b> right to defind <b>himself</b> against the deadly menace named George Zimmerman.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">Make no mistake about it: Zimmerman was <b>stalking</b> this child the way a cat stalks a bird.</span></div>
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<br>In Zimmerman's version of events, he was trying to keep tabs on him until the police got there.<br><br><blockquote><div>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">And, make no mistake about it: Trayvon Martin’s death was unjust. It is <b>absolutely unjust</b> when an innocent child doing not a thing in the world wrong winds up dead because a nut with an indisputable chip on his shoulder has a gun, and the injustice is further magnified when the killer escapes punishment.</span></div>
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<br>He was acquitted in a court of law, because there wasn't enough evidence to convict him. So what do you propose? Throw the rule of law aside for this one case where you're sure he's guilty somehow?<br><br>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">Trayvon had every right to “stand his ground” against a gun-carrying whacko who had already been told by LE <b>not</b> to follow the victim. Any man, woman, or child of <b>any</b> color with connected brain cells would feel threatened being stalked at night by an unknown dangerous creep like Zimmerman.</span></div>
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<br>Martin had no way of knowing that Zimmerman had a gun, and didn't find out until after he was fighting him.<br><br><blockquote><div>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">And, if you don’t Get why folks are rightly upset that a monster like Zimmerman gets a free criminal pass for killing an innocent child and why they want to organize a vigil – or millions of vigils -- in Trayvon Martin’s honor, then I don’t know what to say other than I pity you and your lack of humanity.</span></div>
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<br>You have the nerve to call Zimmerman a "monster", and berate me for being subjective at the same time? And why do you always assume that if I disagree with you that I "lack humanity"? I know myself, and could give a crap if you know how much "humanity" I have.<br>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">Finally, why don’t you just give it a rest? Your biased explanation of why you felt the verdict was just was fine & mildly interesting, even though you included a lot of subjective speculation supporting your bias I guess you hoped we’d miss (LOL – too bad for you, I didn’t miss your selective subjectivity).</span></div>
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<br>I'm getting the idea that "bias" means "disagrees with Saundra", but I could be wrong.<br><br><blockquote><div>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">But, how about losing the arrogance that makes you think causes you don’t care about aren’t worthy, and how about losing the hubris that makes you think it appropriate to tell others where they should be directing their energies? If you want to organize or get out there & protest for your list of causes, have at it! No one is stopping you or suggesting you should be directing your focus elsewhere.</span></div>
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<br>Just trying to inject a little rationality into what appears to be yet another witch hunt. A pastime I find enjoyable sometimes.<br><br><blockquote><div>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt;">Why, then, you do feel the need to chide others who <b>do</b> care – and care deeply – about the completely preventable tragic death of an innocent child at the hands of a lunatic vigilante?</span></div>
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<br>That death could have been prevented two ways. Zimmerman could have left him alone after he'd done his job, and Martin could have not fought him. It's one of those real-life thingys where it's never as black and white (no pun intended) as people would like to believe.<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 1:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Keely Emerine-Mix; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 85, Issue 95</span></div>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span>The problem as I see it, Keely, is that you want it to be an injustice. You want it to be about the innocent black kid that was gunned down by the armed white man for no reason other than he was black. Facts to the contrary be damned. It's a nice story, but just remember that that's what it is: a story.<br>
<br>Paul</span></div>
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<b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">"vision2020@moscow.com"</a> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 1:10 PM<br>
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<div class="yiv8993025473ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10pt;">Tom, be there Friday at 6, tell everyone you know, bring whatever microphone you can, and I'll see you there. I don't care how many people show up. I care very much that I myself not be silent in the face of such an injustice.<br>
<br>Keely<br></span> <span><br><br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com/">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br><br></span></div>
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><br>> I am with you 1,000,000,000 . . . %, Keely.<br>><br>> Please let me know what I, or Moscow Cares, can do to make this rally a reality, and consider it done.<br>><br>> Come on, V-Peeps. GIVE A DAMN !<br>
><br>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<br>><br>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><br>
><br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>><br>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still<br>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill<br>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<br>
><br>> - John Lennon<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Keely Emerine-Mix <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:siyocreo@live.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:siyocreo@live.com"><siyocreo@live.com></a> wrote:<br>><br>> > Visionaires,<br>
> ><br>> > I've been out of town for two weeks so I don't know if there's a rally or anything scheduled on the Palouse in support of the Trayvon Martin family and to express outrage at the verdict. If not, I'd suggest 6 p.m. Friday at Friendship Square. Please either inform me of something previously planned, or pass this around. I'd be willing to speak and I know others of you would, too.<br>
> ><br>> > This saddens and angers me beyond measure. We have to speak out.<br>> ><br>> > Love,<br>> > Keely<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com/">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br>
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><br>> ------------------------------<br>><br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:31:27 -0600<br>> From: Scott Dredge <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com"><scooterd408@hotmail.com></a><br>
> To: Keely Emerine-Mix <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:siyocreo@live.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:siyocreo@live.com"><siyocreo@live.com></a>, viz <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trayvon Martin rally?<br>
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> What would be the point? It was very controversial to bring George Zimmerman to trial in the first place. He was acquitted. Not even a hung jury. Outright full acquittal.<br>><br>> I hate sounding like a broken record but for whatever reason I can't seem to get a basic point across that ***we do not have system of mob rule***. If we did, Zimmerman would have already been lynched without due process long ago. Would that be less of an outrage?<br>
><br>> -Scott<br>><br>> From: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:siyocreo@live.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:siyocreo@live.com">siyocreo@live.com</a><br>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:18:06 -0700<br>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Trayvon Martin rally?<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Visionaires,<br>><br>> I've been out of town for two weeks so I don't know if there's a rally or anything scheduled on the Palouse in support of the Trayvon Martin family and to express outrage at the verdict. If not, I'd suggest 6 p.m. Friday at Friendship Square. Please either inform me of something previously planned, or pass this around. I'd be willing to speak and I know others of you would, too.<br>
><br>> This saddens and angers me beyond measure. We have to speak out.<br>><br>> Love,<br>> Keely<br>><br>><br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com/">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br>
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><br>> ------------------------------<br>><br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:44:05 -0700 (PDT)<br>> From: Paul Rumelhart <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></a><br>
> To: Keely Emerine-Mix <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:siyocreo@live.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:siyocreo@live.com"><siyocreo@live.com></a>, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">"vision2020@moscow.com"</a><br>> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a><br>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>><br>> Keely,<br>><br>> Did you look at the evidence?? I don't see how the jury could have done any differently.? Zimmerman was using the "self-defense" defense, and there was enough evidence of that to provide reasonable doubt (his injuries, the witness who saw the guy in the white sweater beating on the guy in the red sweater, the inability to determine who was shouting for help).? According to Zimmerman, Martin saw his weapon and they fought for it and Zimmerman ended up shooting him in the chest.? Since Martin isn't around to give his side of events (conveniently, I know) and since there is no evidence to disprove this, they pretty much had to acquit.? In my opinion, of course.? To prove second degree murder, they would have to disprove the self-defense defense and show that he was unhinged enough to take this opportunity to go kill Martin.? I haven't seen any evidence of that,
either.<br>
><br>><br>> The media has worked hard to make this about race, but there was no indication I saw that Zimmerman was racially motivated.? If anything, Martin was the one framing everything by race.? NBC had to resort to editing the 9-1-1 tape to make it look like it was racially motivated, but the real 9-1-1 tape doesn't appear to show this (at least what I've heard of it).?<br>
><br>><br>> If you want to get out there and protest something, I recommend protesting what NBC did when editing the 9-1-1 tape in an attempt to ignite racial tensions.? Or protest what the NSA has been doing.? Or protest the drone strikes or the secret courts or the secret reasoning for gathering information on everyone that can't be revealed.? Or protest how the US is going after Snowden so hard instead of cleaning house.?<br>
><br>><br>> Don't be distracted by this media circus.<br>><br>> Paul<br>><br>><br>><br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Keely Emerine-Mix <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:siyocreo@live.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:siyocreo@live.com"><siyocreo@live.com></a><br>
> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">"vision2020@moscow.com"</a> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a><br>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:18 AM<br>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Trayvon Martin rally?<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Visionaires,<br>><br>> I've been out of town for two weeks so I don't know if there's a rally or anything scheduled on the Palouse in support of the Trayvon Martin family and to express outrage at the verdict.? If not, I'd suggest 6 p.m. Friday at Friendship Square.? Please either inform me of something previously planned, or pass this around.? I'd be willing to speak and I know others of you would, too.<br>
><br>> This saddens and angers me beyond measure.? We have to speak out.<br>><br>> Love,<br>> Keely<br>><br>><br>><br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com/">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br>
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