<div dir="ltr">Sounds like you had some fun, Don! What is a Q multiplier?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Don Coombs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wildmushroomer@gmail.com" target="_blank">wildmushroomer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>It's like memory lane to hear about tube amplifiers etc.<br><br></div>Being old has a few advantages. I remember when "high fidelity" first reared its head, in the 1950s. A company came out with a separate component amp called the Pilot-tone (or something like that), which featured 6v6 output tubes in push-pull. Until then people had to buy "music centers" where everything was built into a piece of furniture, with cheap turntable and poor speakers.<br>
<br></div><div>Fisher also was early into selling component audio, I think.<br></div><div><br></div>Later I built quite a few Heathkits. Some guy (not named Heath, maybe named Anthony) bought up boxcar loads of electronics that were being sold as surplus after World War II. If he had boxcars of a certain tube, he had somebody design kits that used them.<br>
<br></div>I built Heathkit audio amps, a shortwave radio, a VTVM and a Q-multiplier, and probably some other kits. (Note my restraint in not carrying on about what a Q-multiplier is.)<br><br></div>I still have the VTVM and the Q-multiplier and could be induced to part with them.<br>
<br></div>Don Coombs<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Ted Moffett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com" target="_blank">starbliss@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">I purchased that Empire 398 turntable in 1967, and the inflation calculator you used shows if it cost $500 in 2012, it would be about $73 in 1967... I recall a price over $100... This source indicates at least one version of this turntable selling for $175 in the 1960s:<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=278075" target="_blank">http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=278075</a><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The calculator show this equates to $1187 from 1967 to 2012.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The $500 price of that May 2013 Ebay listing for this turntable may be way under priced... Or maybe it needed refurbishing...<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Consider this Ebay listing, that just ended July 15, 2013, with extensive information on the specifications of the turntable, where the winning bid was <span>US $1,525.00... The phono cartridge also needs to be considered in the price... </span><br>
<br><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Empire-Troubadour-398-Vintage-Turntable-w-888-SE-Cartridge-980-Tonearm-Gold-Tone-/161060648596?nma=true&si=RJoqRF%252Bwmo%252B09gVqjDZKhwz3Cmc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Empire-Troubadour-398-Vintage-Turntable-w-888-SE-Cartridge-980-Tonearm-Gold-Tone-/161060648596?nma=true&si=RJoqRF%252Bwmo%252B09gVqjDZKhwz3Cmc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a><br>
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Kenneth Marcy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com" target="_blank">kmmos1@frontier.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Well, no doubt the whole list is spell bound by this
subject, but I could not believe what I just found with a
quick search for "empire turntable cartridge 1960s" to see if
I could find a reference to the turntable I had while a
student at Moscow High in the 1960s...<br>
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This May 2013 Ebay listing, for 500 dollars, if you can believe
it, looks exactly like the turntable I had! I did not pay 500
dollars for it in the 1960s! Much less... Note belt riding on
the outside of the platter:<a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-Vintage-Empire-398-Turntable-w-h-Satin-Gold-Finish-Pickering-Cartridge-/130900234504?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1e7a431108&nma=true&si=R53eSaQK9g4wGCXrwBUDYC8xzcQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank"></a><br>
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Considering only Consumer Price Index changes, $500.00 in 2012
dollars is the equivalent of $69.89 in 1965 dollars.<br>
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Would you like to do this or other calculations yourself? Here's
the URL: <a href="http://www.westegg.com/inflation/" target="_blank">http://www.westegg.com/inflation/</a> <br>
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Ken<br>
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