<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">The observations I'm talking about are temperature measurements. They tend to be much less dire than the predictions. Here is one example: http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/06/epic-fail-73-climate-models-vs-observations-for-tropical-tropospheric-temperature/<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Ted Moffett
<starbliss@gmail.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:52 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] The scientific debate on climate change: 67 comments<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4231613549"><div><div>Observations? Skeptic observations? What is the observable data you allude to?</div><div><br>On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">That's cute. If you erased the words "SKEPTIC MODELS" and replaced them with "OBSERVATIONS" and then drew, say, the Incredible Hulk in the
other corner it might be a funnier cartoon. Or maybe Iron Man, or even the boxing kangaroo from the old bugs bunny cartoons.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ted Moffett <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 18,
2013 3:24 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Vision2020] The scientific debate on climate change: 67 comments<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4231613549y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4231613549"><div dir="ltr"><h3 class="yiv4231613549" id="yiv4231613549post-15488"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.realclimate.org/?comments_popup=15488">http://www.realclimate.org/?comments_popup=15488</a><br></h3><h3 class="yiv4231613549" id="yiv4231613549post-15488"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/05/the-scientific-debate-on-climate-change/" title="Permanent Link to The scientific debate on climate change">The scientific debate on climate change</a></h3>
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