<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Mr. Keim -</div><div><br></div><div>You have suggested, without substantiation, that marijuana severely impacts the health of its users. I, along with the states of Washington and Colorado, disagree.</div><div><br></div><div>I introduced same-sex marriage into our discussion for no other reason than to reflect the differences in the two state governments.</div><div><br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim152@gmail.com">keim152@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I fail to see your point.<br><br><br>On Tuesday, June 11, 2013, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>> You realize, of course, that a mere eight (8) miles to the west of Moscow two men (or two women) may legally marry each other . . . and legally toke up a bong at their wedding reception.<br>
> Do you realize that UI's branch of NORML shut down shortly after their website was removed? (<a href="http://idahonorml.webs.com/">http://idahonorml.webs.com/</a>) was frozen.<br>> Yet, I heard rumors that WSU NORML sponsors wedding receptions and is considering opening a booth at Seattle's farmers market.<br>
> <a href="http://norml.org/chapters/item/washington-state-university-norml?category_id=726">http://norml.org/chapters/item/washington-state-university-norml?category_id=726</a><br>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<br>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<br>> <a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><br>> <br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still <br>
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill <br>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<br>> - John Lennon<br>> <br>><br>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> Tom:<br>> <br>> You're right-I don't want to get into a "war of experts." That wasn't my purpose. My purpose was to point out that your graphic was overlooking some fairly major issues caused and/or related to marijuana use.<br>
> <br>> I do appreciate your link to the organization. Hadn't seen that one. For my job I work with the Regional Advisory Committee on Substance Use Disorders. This puts me into regular contact with local recovery counselors, psychologists, etc. I also serve on the boards and/or regularly interact with the Latah County Youth Advocacy Council, Kamiah Community Partners Coalition, and Clearwater Substance Abuse Workgroup. I'm afraid my mind is pretty well made-up RE marijuana.<br>
> <br>> I do tend to favor treating it as a public health issue, like smoking and drinking; rather than as a legal issue. Public Health campaigns against those substances have been reasonably successful.<br>><br>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Mr. Keim -<br>>> Instead of listing inifinite sources that tend to support legalizing, regulating, and taxing marijuana, I invite you to start your browsing at an organization of which I have been a member for quite some time . . .<br>
>> The National Organization for the Reduction of Marijuana Laws (NORML)<br>>> <image.jpeg><br>>> <a href="http://www.norml.org">http://www.norml.org</a><br>>> A couple other things . . . <br>
>> 1 - As far as that illogical claim that 95% of those currently addicted to heroin got their start on marijuana . . . I would be more concerned about the 5% who jumped right in to heroin.<br>>> 2 - My "indulgences" led more to increased sales revenue at the neighborhood KFC versus any increased liquor consumption.<br>
>> Ah, the memories: While stationed at the Presidio of San Francisco (1977 - 1979), my two favorite haunts were Baker Beach (about a quarter mile south of the Golden Gate Bridge and a two-block stagger from the government quarters in which Rodna and I resided) and a tavern at the corner of Fifth Street and Clement Avenue called the Moonshiner (whose customer base consisted of everything from lawyers to opera singers to Hells Angels . . . and yours truly).<br>
>> To make a long (and rather interesting) story short, marijuana was easily procurable at each location. In fact, I recall several occasions where people would sit on the curb, outsde the Moonshiner (that had no entry door, just a slider that would open the entire front end), openly smoking a joint, watching cars (including SFPD) go by.<br>
>> Those were the days, my friend . . .<br>>><br>>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<br>>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<br>>> <a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><br>
>> <br>>> Tom Hansen<br>>> Moscow, Idaho<br>>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still <br>>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill <br>>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<br>
>> - John Lennon<br>>> <br>>><br>>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Interesting graphic, though a poor logical argument. Sure soda is bad, does that mean we should A. Ban all bad things? B. Legalize all bad things? Isn't there room for a third option? I won't attempt to defend soda. <br>
>> <br>>> The graphic goes very light on marijuana's harms.<br>>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis</a><br>
>> The above page mentions positive correlations to: female infertility, dependency, acute psychosis (but only when tied to an underlying mental disorder), chronic psychosis (in adolescence), increased suicide rate, gateway drug (my personal anecdotal experience backs this-most of the folks I meet in treatment started with either booze or pot), and loss of IQ. Curiously, it doesn't seem to cause lung cancer (though other cancers show a positive correlation), though it does have some of the other health issues usually correlated with smoking. <br>
>> <br>>> The above are correlated with marijuana. I won't argue that correlation equals causation. I also won't argue that it also correlates with some positives: pain relief, slows cognitive decline, The Eagles famous "Peaceful, Easy Feeling."<br>
>> <br>>> Sounds to me like neither is a net societal positive...<br>>><br>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>> <1010437_10151481021971275_1141633502_n.jpg><br>>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .<br>>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)<br>>> <a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><br>
>> <br>>> Tom Hansen<br>>> Moscow, Idaho<br>>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still <br>>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill <br>><br>> =======================================================<br>
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